When does lois and clark start dating in smallville

wayne peterson and todd slavkin revealed that they planned to introduce more dc comics characters into smallville this season. i think despite chloe being there and knowing that clark kissed her back, she wasn't at all certain that clark wasn't just caught up in the moment or indulging her last request.  for giving into a weak moment and thinking, why should i worry so much about clark when he's not worried about me and accepting an offer that she then still never betrayed clark over and then tried to get out of, her father lost his job, never really recovered financially and she was nearly killed and then was blackballed at the dp and had to start over (over from being in the dp's good graces when she was a summer intern, not the column stuff). described as "fiercely independent",[2] critics have favorably compared this version of lois lane against the other live-action performances of the character in both film and television. hated the nice guy crap she pulled with clark and lana. the collapse of the fortress of solitude, oliver queen, arthur curry, and dinah lance set out searching for clark. deal with lionel was a mistake she paid for by nearly dying and her father not being able to get hired even later. enjoyed at least the first half of six (while i lived in hope that the road blocks that was jimmy was only temporary and the clana was a dead horse) six is also tainted by how they took away chloe's power suits, leaving her in weird frumpy outfits while she propped the ego of the insecure jimmy olsen just so she could say she had a boyfriend. that is when he had clark distance himself from chloe. according to the actress, "that was a lot of fun; i thought it was funny as well […] it really was wonderful to be able to stretch and play this driven woman who has a goal and is going to reach it, and in the meantime she's going to be sexy doing it.  she could have laid low using her cousin's identity for awhile, even anonymously submitting articles to the planet under  lois's name while everything settled down or blatantly used her missing and presumed dead cousin's name as her non de plume to honor her absence.  as for davis, chloe and clark both made bad choices and the number one imo being not listening to each other so the convoluted reasons why things happened wouldn't have been needed. that episode when chloe is inside lois' body was hard to watch in my opinion.  (again that's where bargaining with the universe explains so much)  still, jimmy had to be a nice distraction and a balm to the wounds she was hiding. and a scientist activate the crystal that built the fortress of solitude, which results in an energy beam being sent into space. i don't think he unselfishly stepped out of the picture, but rather he was too uncertain of what chloe really felt and afraid of the risk he'd be taking with their friendship, at least in that first moment when suddenly his expectations were turned upside down.  so her being presented for seven years as the lois character on a superman show, that is what made her the only acceptable character to start with for me. minutes ago, bkwurm1 said:I enjoyed at least the first half of six (while i lived in hope that the road blocks that was jimmy was only temporary and the clana was a dead horse) six is also tainted by how they took away chloe's power suits, leaving her in weird frumpy outfits while she propped the ego of the insecure jimmy olsen just so she could say she had a boyfriend. with some help from john, who has recovered, clark is cleared of all charges. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character. beneath that surface and it was a crowd of people having the back  and supporting lana's casting and wanting the show to do right by the character. i think despite chloe being there and knowing that clark kissed her back, she wasn't at all certain that clark wasn't just caught up in the moment or indulging her last request. have to say i never wanted chloe to be lois. there's nothing more that i can add that @bkwurm1 didn't already state. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character.[30] swimmer further explained that clark will be acting more with his superpowers, whereas previously he would "react" to the situation; "he's going to seek out trouble. lois wouldn't walk away from saving someone's life, even someone she hated, like chloe did when she was going to let tess die, even while telling her earlier that she would save her life. have to say i never wanted chloe to be lois. next time chloe risked showing her feelings he gave her a kiss on the cheek and the mind addling "at least not right now". i think they wouldn't have dated immediately after the kiss, unless they have had a conversation about it, chloe would still have acted insecure (probably less), but with lexana happening, clark might have started viewing chloe more than just a friend.  she was never going to chose him first even if it wasn't clark and jimmy imo revealed his nasty side with the break up, comments on line about her and the attempted thefts.  we had chloe literally go to the ends of the earth for clark and declaring her love for him to jor-el.'s little moments like that which, for me, sum up nicely 2 of chloe's better qualities, her loyalty and her smarts. but it's present day - and most people don't seem able to talk about lana lang or kristin kreuk without making offensive digs about her. and in the end, chloe as an adult was strictly a reporter. chloe remembered what almost happened with them at the end of season one, and how he hot trotted back to lana like pavlov's dog, and didn't want to be the one, again, to agree, that the kiss meant nothing, when it so clearly meant something to both of them.[24] when she learns that lex set up a fake pregnancy in order to get her to marry him in the season six finale "phantom", lana effectively ends the marriage and fakes her own death to escape lex after he threatens her. clark wasn't standing there in shock, but was fully participating. minutes ago, bkwurm1 said:I enjoyed at least the first half of six (while i lived in hope that the road blocks that was jimmy was only temporary and the clana was a dead horse) six is also tainted by how they took away chloe's power suits, leaving her in weird frumpy outfits while she propped the ego of the insecure jimmy olsen just so she could say she had a boyfriend. minutes ago, andysmith said:In that respect, she is a lot like will from alias. tess pieces together that clark was in the arctic with lex when he disappeared, while kara decides to leave earth in search of kandor, a city that could possibly house survivors of krypton.[9] clark's actions in metropolis force the two to rethink their relationship in the season three episode "phoenix",[10] and lana eventually begins a new relationship with adam knight (ian somerhalder), a guy she met while in physical therapy after being trampled by a horse in season three's "asylum". that was her main focus & helping clark out here & there. as far as season six is concerned, the relationship between lois and clark is still undefined for the audience. relationship with jimmy failed again and again because she always chose clark over him so i strongly disagree that she only helped him here and there.[37] though lana had growing feelings for clark, kreuk feels that the producers rushed the coupling of clark and lana at the end of the second season. using her newfound super powers, she breaks into lex's safe and steals incriminating .[37] this version of maxima had the ability to make herself irresistible to men, including clark, whom she set her sights on; actress charlotte sullivan was cast as maxima. and his reason for not blindly trusting her was because his feelings were hurt over her not contacting him or explaining her plan which only took admitting before he did fully trust her again. it's interesting to see that clark would not have killed lex already because he believes so much in the goodness of man and that it's not his right to decide their life, contrary to lana's belief which is warped by her vengefulness. oliver gets the book, and zatanna sets out to resurrect her father with it, which will require her to sacrifice her own life. her keeping clark as a placer whenever whitney disappointed her, then would treat him like shit when he disappointed her, as if he, was her boyfriend. than her also harping and butting her nose in trying to find out the "truth" about clark's "real" and "biological" parents. hour ago, doram said:@bkwurm1 as someone who has had this discussion, in one variation or the other, for the entire decade i watched this show - i will just say that your experience with the smallville fandom and my experience with it are vastly different and live it at that. clark having such a big heart, forgave her, but never forgot it, i'm sure. so i don't think it had anything to do with insecurity, but everything to do with his bda ass choosing and mooning over lana, and thus saving herself from yet another heartache, since they were both in a good place. jimmy is enlisted to take photos of lois in her stiletto costume, but his camera is taken by the mobster, who wants revenge on stiletto. as the series progresses, her interest in journalism grows, first writing a couple of articles for the smallville high torch in season four, landing a job at the inquisitor in season six, and finally being hired at the daily planet in season seven., chloe is my favourite and don't  approve everything she did (sebastian my main concern over the series). was never tied to the notion that she had to be known as lois lane, just that she would be the equivalent of lois on the show and in many ways even without ever having an explored romantic relationship with clark, chloe sullivan's legacy on smallville is the one that i see as having had the bigger influence on the modern direction of lois lane than edlois.: smallville seasons2008 american television seasons2009 american television seasonslegion of super-heroes in other mediahidden categories: use mdy dates from may 2015pages using deprecated image syntaxinfobox television season articles that use the season name parameter.  and she's not the one that interfered with clark's plan to split davis, she just happened to figure it out when clark wasn't there. was originally a copy of lois, but she of course grew out of that and went on to have her own stories. clark wasn't standing there in shock, but was fully participating.  so her being presented for seven years as the lois character on a superman show, that is what made her the only acceptable character to start with for me.  like someone said, chloe was almost the willow rosenberg of this show and i have such strong feelings about dark! next time chloe risked showing her feelings he gave her a kiss on the cheek and the mind addling "at least not right now".)  laurel's problem and lois's too was that other characters got to the most easily associated traits and characteristics well before they did which by the time either laurel or lois ever do anything to perhaps work toward their comic "destinies" they are a johnny come lately in their own story.  she came to the show a low level hacker, got better but still had her limits and kept getting better but still got caught by the government and then she got a alien computer downloaded in her brain and after that she was the worlds best hacker. though lana eventually marries lex in season six, al gough argues that lana still loved clark and clark still loved her. world was ending in the sense that they might never have seen each other again if clark died or got trapped.  had jimmy not swooped in, i think clark might have had a chance to process and not just accept everything she said at face value. she protected him and kept his secret and saved his life more than a few times even before he knew she knew. darren swimmer describes the relationship between lois and clark in season five as "a bit of a melting of the ice". durance also revealed that lois would begin to realize her true romantic feelings for clark, but that she does not want him to know the truth because she does not know what she wants to do with those feelings. yeah, i thought it very telling that in a crisis chloe only thought of clark and i thought it very telling that once she left he left the farmhouse too without a word to lois or his mother. zatanna visits oliver and offers to grant him one wish if he can find her father's book of spells. it was all very low-key and under the guise of 'they're erasing her ethnicity' but if you scratch beneath the faux-political-correctedness - it was a bunch of white girl geeks complaining that a traditionally white character had been 'racebent' & was the love interest above their blonde-haired-blue-eyed self insert. i didn't see any of that hesitation or shock or trying to pull away from chloe in the fifth finale. and she finished the show once again as a journalist! the two characters continue to "butt heads", but the audience can see where there is a growing attraction and that either would be there for the other in a time of need.

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 even in the tenth season when suddenly chloe could fight, she'd had nearly a decade of reasons why she should learn and a slew of people around her that could teach her. i understand she had feelings for him so i could see her being hurt & sad, but to be so angry to turn to lionel was too much. i hated that she put cameras all over clark's house and listened to his private calls, but when lana spied on lex , chloe came down on her for it.  the feelings for each of them were real, but the reveal got rushed and they both were afraid. alfred gough sees it, lana is a by-product of clark and lex's decisions. have a lot of thoughts on chloe and chlark and how even when i try not to see it i honestly see chloe as closer to my conception of lois lane and smallville's lois lane as immensely grating and unlikable, but you all have heard them all before :).  it would be reasonable that chloe/lois would take a lot of convincing before she'd trust clark's feelings.'m not sure i agree and i'm also not sure i disagree. if she wasn't pining for clark, her focus was on finding out what clark was keeping from her. as peterson sees it, it is the dynamic between her and oliver, with her willingness to accept oliver's secret identity as green arrow as mirroring the relationship she will have with clark. the character of lois lane, first created for comic books by jerry siegel and joe shuster in 1938 to be the love interest for clark kent and his alter-ego superman, was adapted to television in 2001 by alfred gough and miles millar—this is the fourth time the character has been adapted into a live-action television series. while her getting into the dp was hard to buy, i could overlook it (that is until i read criticism of how lois got her start-lois entry was done much better than chloe). if chloe had done that both clark and the world would have fallen multiple times. tess mercer's primary goal for this season was finding lex, which drew her inquisitively to clark, who she believed would be able to help her. he told the fake her she was completely right in what she did.[1] eventually, in order to really get to know herself, and find her role in life, lana leaves smallville for paris. i don't think he unselfishly stepped out of the picture, but rather he was too uncertain of what chloe really felt and afraid of the risk he'd be taking with their friendship, at least in that first moment when suddenly his expectations were turned upside down. not only would the character still have jimmy olsen, but there is still the question of her romantic interest in clark, as well as a new interest in the character of davis bloome. three's "forsaken" reveals that lana, in order to move on with her life, applies and is admitted into a program to study in paris, france. in "hydro", lois deduces that oliver is green arrow, setting up an elaborate scheme to prove it. isn't even necessarily the type of character i usually love and relate to, but allison mack gave her a real vulnerability and depth imo that makes me love her even more while rewatching. oliver discovers that clark is being held captive in russia, and leaves to rescue him. clark's first day at the daily planet a bomb on a bus goes off outside the building. after stealing a kryptonite-powered suit from lex, lana absorbs an enormous amount of kryptonite radiation, which prohibits her from getting too close to clark, and she leaves smallville for good, but vowed to continue to use her powers to preserve life. it's just that they made chloe so lovably lois-y to me that the real lois ended up feeling like an unnecessary and less likable version of chloe to me while relegating chloe to a less important role. that i associate with lois without the large dose of smugness, arrogance, too-cool-for-the-room vibe that i often saw in smallville's version of lois.: fictional characters introduced in 2004dc comics martial artistsfictional reporterssmallville charactersfictional waiting staffsuperman in other mediahidden categories: all articles with dead external linksarticles with dead external links from april 2012use mdy dates from september 2012good articles.  had clark not been whisked away to face lex/zod, i think clark and chloe's friendship would have kept growing at a natural pace toward that something more but i think the trauma that pushed chloe to show clark once again how much he meant to her (and imo him to her vice versa) meant that neither of them had quite gotten to that mental place where they were brave enough or confident enough to own up to their feelings without the pressure of the end of the world.  (that and i wanted a lois lane type character though frankly the lois they eventually offered was a terrible fit and made me appreciate lana more. think even another minute after the kiss for them to process just a little bit what had just happened between them would have helped keep doubts at bay but instead they were interrupted and had to put their personal feelings instantly aside. lois wouldn't walk away from saving someone's life, even someone she hated, like chloe did when she was going to let tess die, even while telling her earlier that she would save her life. after witnessing chloe and davis hugging, and having chloe stun him with a taser before he could hit davis with a pipe, jimmy informs chloe that marrying her was a mistake and he walks out on her. season of smallville was perfect, but i think 5 did a great job of giving everyone watching something to enjoy. below quote is from a few episodes prior to sebastian's death:Clark: chloe, the person who did this may have kidnapped lex. so i don't think it had anything to do with insecurity, but everything to do with his bda ass choosing and mooning over lana, and thus saving herself from yet another heartache, since they were both in a good place.  she has years of loving him (and him giving her reasons to think he might feel they had something special beyond friendship) but she also had clark leaving her in the middle of a date to go out into terrible weather cause lana might have been at risk.  no, i don't think he wanted to say it meant nothing but i think he was really uncertain still of what this change to their friendship could mean and scared of messing things up. similarly with her reporting, she got called out on her issues as a reporter in the early seasons (including accepting shortcuts from lionel)  got knocked down and kept working her craft until it earned her a shot to work her way up. i'm sure if i was motivated to look, i'd find there are (and were) as many lana-centric places of the internet as chloe-centered ones.  added to that was years of seeing a relationship with lana that was based on fantasy and then later lois that was based on retcons, rewrites and a lot of non subtile cause comics! remember that after requiem, that clark wants to go back time (destroying everything he learned in reckoning) and, if it could be possible, to the exact moment he has to pick up lois.  once she learned clark's secret and became a real ally, though, i started to really enjoy her more. 02/10/2016 at 4:02 pm, doram said:And let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity. "the babes of the dc 'verse: lois lane and catwoman are the few bright jewels in dc's crown.[31] another reason for clark's decision to develop a secret identity will be the stark contrast between saving people in the secluded streets of smallville, and saving people in the crowded streets of metropolis.  she has years of loving him (and him giving her reasons to think he might feel they had something special beyond friendship) but she also had clark leaving her in the middle of a date to go out into terrible weather cause lana might have been at risk. only agreed to come back for seasons 9 & 10 if he had more control over clark. in an elseworlds story where clark is found by the waynes and becomes batman, he meets a lois who scorns his brutality.[42] as freeman describes her character, tess mercer is lex's handpicked successor; she is "fierce", "fun" and intelligent.  she has years of loving him (and him giving her reasons to think he might feel they had something special beyond friendship) but she also had clark leaving her in the middle of a date to go out into terrible weather cause lana might have been at risk. could have written a solid lois and clark love story but they didn't so this never ending contention will probably be never ending but that's fine.  by season 8, i was far more cynical about the chlois theory happening (after the new show runners came in i was more a sincere wisher than believer ) but the narrative pieces were still there and piling up. tess orchestrates an elaborate plan to expose clark's secret, which involves stranding the two of them on a plane on the verge of crashing. minutes ago, andysmith said:In that respect, she is a lot like will from alias.-she resisted on loving clark, because she knew he was in lovewith lana, and accepted it.    there were so many reasons to find the lana character a problem right there on screen that i see no need to try and scratch below the surface of those complaints to go looking for some other reason. comes back and he expects to have a conversation about that kiss but he was clearly nervous., i never looked at chloe and thought, "that's a young lois lane right there. according to kreuk, meeting her biological father allowed the character to realize that she had to create her own life, as the one she had envisioned did not actually exist. while lex luthor is presumed dead, and lana lang has left smallville for good, clark also meets new characters davis bloome, smallville's interpretation of doomsday, as well as the new ceo of luthorcorp, tess mercer. clark more than forgave her, he came to rely on her more than anyone. he should have called her on her bullshit, and said it meant something to him, but then she threw jimmy up there-who, to me, was just protecting herself from being hurt by clark, in case lana came sniffing back. it was all very low-key and under the guise of 'they're erasing her ethnicity' but if you scratch beneath the faux-political-correctedness - it was a bunch of white girl geeks complaining that a traditionally white character had been 'racebent' & was the love interest above their blonde-haired-blue-eyed self insert." kreuk echoes mack's sentiments, acknowledging that lana is not stupid, and if clark wants a real relationship then he is going to have to be honest with her. instead, tess learns that clark plans to use black kryptonite to split davis from his doomsday persona, and send the beast into the phantom zone. granted chloe was pretty clark-centric at times too, but i could see her living outside of the show and with lana, i couldn't.[22] in the season eight finale, lois and tess mercer (cassidy freeman), lex luthor's handpicked successor to luthorcorp, get into a physical fight at the daily planet. to separate the physical appearance of lana and lois from each other, the producers had highlights added to durance's hair, as she and kristin kreuk both shared a similar brunette coloring.  (i'm quoting) pretty much proved to me he didn't really understand her. apart from her beauty, phillips states, "durance makes lois intelligent, capable, funny and dangerously curious – exactly the type of woman clark kent would fall for.[39] durance believes her character is "fiercely independent", but at the same time she is not afraid to admit that she has flaws, and she is only human; lois also does not feel sorry about having those flaws. i've seen similar sentiments and wondered how to answer, as it's as if we were watching different shows. these discoveries about lana cause clark to be reluctant to continue the relationship that everybody increasingly realizes is keeping him from his destiny. he went on to express that the theme of season eight would be "double identity"; specifically, swimmer explained that clark would begin to understand that he is going to have to live a double life, or he will never be able to continue forward with his destiny..jimmy and chloe started badly, because she basically started dating him because she felt insecure after kissing clark. clark goes to her rescue, but a kryptonite watch the jeweler wears weakens clark. it's not even necessarily a "ship"-related thing for me---i'm mostly fine with chloe not ending up with clark and actually liked her with ollie. lois got to be blissfully ignorant and when she did know, she was fine letting clark handle his problems he could tell her or not. theses are the qualities that clark kent on man of steel falls for in lois lane.[39] this developing friendship between lex and lana puts a strain on lana's relationship with clark. i somehow ended up watching the doomsday arc recently and i'm still flabbergasted at how chloe neatly divided the blame for that between her and clark and how she even blamed clark's moral compass for doomsday.

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having sex with jimmy when she was an intern & their three season relationship, getting engaged and married, proclaiming their undying devotion to each other in the season 8 finale and him dying in her arms was beautiful and tragic. made a non-speaking cameo appearance in the ninth issue of the show's comic book continuation smallville: season eleven, written by executive story editor bryan q. by season eight, lois begins to realize that she is falling in love with clark, and by season nine the two become an official couple.[20] her feelings for clark become stronger as the season progresses, admitting in the episode "committed" that she is in love with clark,[21] and stating to oliver in the episode "bride" that she has never felt this way about someone before. she threw in the "whole world was ending" nonsense, which clark wasn't buying, but what else could he do? and, man am i glad i stayed on the periphery of fandom for this show. clark battles doomsday in the streets of metropolis and manages to bury doomsday, as planned, using explosives to seal the tunnel. show made mistakes with lois for sure but that would only make her a poor lois.[37] in season eight, durance sees clark taking a job at the daily planet as a chance for her character to "step it up and be more involved".  chimmy seemed truly dead and buried even before jimmy died.[50][51] the dvd and blu-ray box set were also released in region 2 and region 4 on october 12, 2009 and march 31, 2010, respectively. ultimately, it is clark's own lack of honesty that forces lana to leave smallville and go to paris at the end of season three.  then we had chloe leaving with davis in an attempt to save clark and clark really seeming to wake up to his feelings. played a lot with clark's 3 love interests, but there was something with chloe that made me think that they could go that way because of abyss. there, clark and lois find kara, who helps lois escape back to earth. during the line of questions, lois admits that she loves clark. afterward, clark decides that he must leave the farm and pursue a new life, one that is free from the things that have been holding him back from his destiny. show didn't write as lana as perfect or particularly fortunate. liked chloe better when the show didn't pretend she was hideous, unlovable and undeserving of life., she told clark to do something about lex each time when clark was dithering and not acting while lex was actively targeting him.   Her, Clark and Pete, being the Scooby Do Gang, investigating, . in this time, with chloe's help clark comes to understand that in her vengeance lana has become a secretive, deceptive liar. granted, am always did a great job with the character, but i found myself tolerating chloe as a character, before she finds out, to loving her after she find out. john jones arrives and restores clark's powers, at the cost of his own.[42] before the end of smallville's seventh season, ign's daniel phillips compared the actresses who have portrayed the character of lois lane over the past three decades. have different opinions on man of steel (i liked it in spite of some plot holes and the destruction of most of manhattan) but i thought amy adams take on lois was very telling. by season two, with whitney's departure, lana and clark begin to grow closer. i hated the way fandom valorized her, even while she was being *problematic* and i hated how they maligned and slut-shamed other female characters in favor of chloe. chloe & lois love each other, and the actresses really like each other a lot, and hate how some of their fans feel the need to bash the other. "smallville exclusive: kara's future is up, up in the air". at least not anymore perfect or fortunate than fan-favorite chloe who went from being the best hacker in the world in high school to the best reporter in the world to a superhero to a superhero's loving wife and mother of his kid. john warns clark that his heroic actions are getting a lot of attention and could expose him to the world, so he needs to be more careful when saving people. a scenario where the show kept going for more seasons, they could have had chloe kind of reach a place where now she's moved on from her feelings while clark is the one crushing and she's oblivious, thus restarting the romance along the more traditional lines of the comics. and, even then i didn't think they were really going to do a "chloe is actually lois" thing.  added to that was years of seeing a relationship with lana that was based on fantasy and then later lois that was based on retcons, rewrites and a lot of non subtile cause comics![36] dozens of actresses auditioned for the role of lois lane, but it was not until a tape from erica durance showed up that everyone felt that they had found the right lois. i hated that she tried to argue for clark to kill lex in s8. comes back and he expects to have a conversation about that kiss but he was clearly nervous. than her also harping and butting her nose in trying to find out the "truth" about clark's "real" and "biological" parents, after he asked her to drop it, and in season 8 and 9, chloe was my favorite character in this show. gathers a team of meteor-infected individuals to track doomsday so that she can give clark his location, and hopefully convince him to kill doomsday. by using this site, you agree to the terms of use and privacy policy. i don't understand some fans who love one character have to bash & be nasty & cruel towards other characters. the way, i also shipped ollie with lois so to me, was a bit difficult to accept at the beginning. lateness of her casting forced durance to start filming only three days after being hired, with no time to prepare for the role. would be nice to think that all this happened over a decade ago when most audience didn't know better.[44] by contrast, writer caroline dries feels that lana did love lex, and that she did not make any hasty decisions when she agreed to marry him. i almost became a lawyer and i can tell you for a fact that's not how it works. during season ten the relationship goes through several milestones and midseason the pair get engaged. maxima tracks the signal to tess, and then mistakenly identifies jimmy as the kryptonian. he told the real her the following year that he had been wrong about pushing her away and how he treated her and later admitted he needed the same big brother network he'd been concerned about before. miller explains that he read through archived comics featuring the zatanna character, but was more influenced by grant morrison’s writing turn on seven soldiers, as well as the television episodes of batman: the animated series and justice league unlimited that zatanna made appearances on. it was always her so-called perfection at the centre of the debates on twop and other superman boards..  by season 8, i was far more cynical about the chlois theory happening (after the new show runners came in i was more a sincere wisher than believer ) but the narrative pieces were still there and piling up. begins to embrace the idea of a double identity by wearing his blue shirt under his suit, carrying his red jacket in his backpack, and switching into his red-blue blur persona whenever he needs to. her uncle, who owned a comic book shop, filled her in on the details and she learned more from the producers. chloe remembered what almost happened with them at the end of season one, and how he hot trotted back to lana like pavlov's dog, and didn't want to be the one, again, to agree, that the kiss meant nothing, when it so clearly meant something to both of them. it was always her so-called perfection at the centre of the debates on twop and other superman boards. still had the jimmy problem and added the meteor power problem but there was a lot of good stuff in it too and it built up a long list of comparisons between lana and chloe (where lana did not come off looking good) that tricked me into believing there would be payoff as clark's lana blinders finally came off.  had clark not been whisked away to face lex/zod, i think clark and chloe's friendship would have kept growing at a natural pace toward that something more but i think the trauma that pushed chloe to show clark once again how much he meant to her (and imo him to her vice versa) meant that neither of them had quite gotten to that mental place where they were brave enough or confident enough to own up to their feelings without the pressure of the end of the world.  i won't ever consider those sites as a legitimate representation of the viewership or fandom. that is when he had clark distance himself from chloe.  believe me, i was completely astounded at what they did with her character and the send off they gave her in regards to first lois and then clark. casting director coreen mayrs sent david nutter, the director of the pilot episode, a tape of 69 people and the second person on the tape was kreuk. in a world where clark prefers lois over you, ollie is a really good boyfriend! smallville, lana is the love interest for clark kent, though, in the first season she is dating whitney fordman. when she find some balance with her "love" with jimmy she could have tried to be with clark, but subconsciously didn't want to lose what she had with jimmy because she knew that clark still loved lana. i read this meta on tumblr about the one acceptable female character and the fandom sociological reasons for the archetypes that usually fall prey to this syndrome. least, they should have waited until s10 to clois, or hint at it at the very end. comes back and he expects to have a conversation about that kiss but he was clearly nervous. see which other movies and tv shows we're excited about this month. and in the end, chloe as an adult was strictly a reporter. clark starts his internship in the daily planet with lois as his co-worker. chloe hadn't hid davis and gone with him many more lives would have been lost including clark's.  chimmy seemed truly dead and buried even before jimmy died. for almost walking away from tess, well, she didn't did she. she was a really good friend to clark & i appreciated that about her, but by doing so, she lacked her spark of reporting the story in order to protect him. afterward, the legion takes what is left of brainiac with them back to the future to reprogram him into brainiac 5, leaving clark with a legion ring of his own. chloe sort of filled the lois role (investigating things, getting into trouble) but was a character in her own right.-she resisted on loving clark, because she knew he was in lovewith lana, and accepted it.  brainiac was still weaving his plot which apparently included tricking clark into taking him to the fortress - not something easily accomplished once clark is on the run or in government lockdown.  thinking her closer than a sister cousin was dead, knowing all her friends had slunk away and that the other important men in her life were either dead or pretending to be.

Lois Lane (Smallville) - Wikipedia

developing the characteristics of their version of lois lane, the writers took inspiration from other leading ladies in cinema, for example, karen allen's character marion ravenwood, from raiders of the lost ark. when she leaves she breaks up with whitney and starts dating clark.[40] allison mack shares her insight into the relationship between clark and lana, believing that the pair should have remained apart until they could finally be honest with each other: "there's no honesty in their relationship, and there's no way that they could have a healthy relationship without that honesty […] you can't be with someone if you're not honest with them. was originally a copy of lois, but she of course grew out of that and went on to have her own stories. eventually, lana learns the truth about clark and they get back together. think the show routinely gave chloe more "human" stories to sink her teeth into and tended to give lana more "action-y" stories.  it was pretty clear in the episode what was happening, then oliver guilts chloe about it and though she knows it wasn't her, she still feels responsible and so he is able to use her guilt against her. liked the episodes when she knows his secret and he is not aware. of lois's key relationships is with clark, who is her husband in the comics. clark intended to split doomy and davis but clark was writhing on a floor when chloe split davis and doomy.[27] lois and clark's relationship reaches its peak in the tenth and final season.  my issues with lois are about her, not merely in comparison to chloe.'ve never in all my years in smallville forums ever heard complaints about her character being wrong because of kk's very vague ethnicity (and i say vague because i was two years into that show before i even realized she probably had some asian heritage and that was only after people complained that they badly cast her parents. yeah, i thought it very telling that in a crisis chloe only thought of clark and i thought it very telling that once she left he left the farmhouse too without a word to lois or his mother. swimmer believes that lana started dating lex as a way of making clark mad, but the relationship "turned into much more". they wanted an actress who was "pretty", "smart", and who came with some "wit".[45] after the series ended, gough and millar expressed regret with lana's characterization throughout the course of the show, which they felt damaged lana in the audiences' mind.  she could have laid low using her cousin's identity for awhile, even anonymously submitting articles to the planet under  lois's name while everything settled down or blatantly used her missing and presumed dead cousin's name as her non de plume to honor her absence.  had jimmy not swooped in, i think clark might have had a chance to process and not just accept everything she said at face value.[31] in the episode "requiem", lana discovers that her suit absorbs kryptonite, but also emits the radiation making her a potential danger to clark. lois accepts an assignment to africa to investigate mysterious reports surrounding a vigilante, known as "angel of the plateau. clark having such a big heart, forgave her, but never forgot it, i'm sure. for clark, i'm pretty sure after dealing with doomsday, jor-el brainwashed him and messed with his memory so he only thought he was in love with lois, cause what i saw on screen was him finally just barely learning to like her.  and clark probably would have tried hard to resist his feelings cause chloe would be giving off clear signs that he'd missed out. was fine for me, but i'd have preferred clark to chose chloe. lionel (john glover) discovers the truth and sends someone to kill her, but lois and clark stop the would-be killer, allowing chloe to testify.   arguably once chloe knew his secret, she became as important to him as his parents and in some ways he relied on her even more. todd slavkin describes the character as having a "sophisticated, worldly experience", and was considered to be more of an adult than the rest of the cast.   in hindsight i am very puzzled why the following season the show runners decided to move in the opposite direction of what seemed to get them those good ratings and positive buzz in season five and over the summer. think even another minute after the kiss for them to process just a little bit what had just happened between them would have helped keep doubts at bay but instead they were interrupted and had to put their personal feelings instantly aside.  as to why brainiac acted, it was a dropped plot line but it seemed pretty clear to me later that it wasn't in brainiac's best interest to have clark's secret exposed to the world yet., my only real problem with lana was tptb's propensity to pull the on-again/off-again card out for her and clark. season nine, lois returns from the future suffering from visions of earth having been overrun by aliens, led by zod (callum blue). clark and lois discover that they are missing and pose as a couple to lure the kidnapper out of hiding. as a result, she leaves smallville to go on her own quest as clark can no longer get near her without the kryptonite radiation hurting him.  now, i didn't want her and clark to be a couple throughout the series, but i really wish the asshats would have at least had them date, because it was clear to me, that clark did have feelings for her, but noooo, that stupid tornado happened, lana was aloooonne again, so of course he dropped chloe as if she were kryptonite.  and clark probably would have tried hard to resist his feelings cause chloe would be giving off clear signs that he'd missed out. beginning of season five saw, for the first time, clark and lana in a happy relationship together, one that was void of dishonesty and secrets.  it was lana lang's seeming "perfection" in spite of her glaring character flaws and the showrunners near obsession about her that drove people away from her character and to chloe. this allowed the show to "reinvigorate" itself by introducing new characters and storylines, as well as developing clark's understanding of his destiny. clark informs chloe that he can send davis to the phantom zone using the crystal from the fortress of solitude; hearing this, chloe lies and tells clark she thinks davis could be in alaska. comparatively, the dvd revenue decreased from the previous year, with the season seven box set having sold over 212,000 units and generating an estimated million during its first week. lana and lois also had their part, but chloe was  there when he travelled through space and time, the one who saved him from the kryptonite, the one who knew how to discover classified information and hacked everything for him..jimmy and chloe started badly, because she basically started dating him because she felt insecure after kissing clark.[32] while working at the daily planet, clark was paired up with lois on various assignments. the character of lana lang, first created for comic books by bill finger and john sikela in the 1950s as a romantic interest for superboy, was adapted to television in 2001 by alfred gough and miles millar. the eighth season comprises 22 episodes and concluded its initial airing on may 14, 2009,[1] marking the third season to air on the cw television network.  she not only suddenly becomes interested in astronomy (which at least made a tiny bit of sense for once), she's great at it and easily gets accepted into a college she hadn't even applied for. clark intended to split doomy and davis but clark was writhing on a floor when chloe split davis and doomy.'s not my fault that legal rigamaroll caused the show runners to drop a character into the show four seasons in with the name lois to strengthen their case but after a pair of intro episodes decided to ditch 70 years of characteristics.  i was very sorry that the ensuing story structure didn't keep him around.[40] swan won the role of zatanna after "acing" her audition thanks to the actress recording zatanna's spells into her ipod and studying them in reverse—to cast a spell zatanna recites the words in reverse.[6] smallville's eighth season received an emmy award nomination in the sound editing for a series category. chloe is a unique character to smallville & i like her being herself. clark's heroic actions put him in jimmy's sights, who starts connecting things to clark; this helped fuel clark's decision to develop a "secret identity". laruel's chlois problem had nothing to do with a fan favorite everywoman unless her back from the dead assassin trained sister sara who lacked the name but had the outfits, the training, the signature power, and the comic book pseudo adoptive family could be considered an everywoman (the other only acceptable woman trope perhaps? so i don't think it had anything to do with insecurity, but everything to do with his bda ass choosing and mooning over lana, and thus saving herself from yet another heartache, since they were both in a good place. i hated that she sold out her bff and got a daily planet column in return for her services to lionel.  the other issue i have with comparing arrow and smallville is that while fandoms in smallville divided into their camps, i know i've said all along on arrow anyone but laurel as a romantic interest. i read this meta on tumblr about the one acceptable female character and the fandom sociological reasons for the archetypes that usually fall prey to this syndrome.  a few one off lines about bad spelling or liking monster trucks or having a general for a father (which doesn't even apply to most canons) doesn't weigh heavier in my book than being the journalist in clark's life that helps him fight "crime". next time chloe risked showing her feelings he gave her a kiss on the cheek and the mind addling "at least not right now". @bkwurm1--you said more eloquently and clearly what i was trying to say; though i do think that in that moment, clark may have also had an epiphany that he'd been selfish before, and so, "stepped away" if you will. million viewers per episode, the season out-ranked other high-profile shows on the network, such as reaper and gossip girl. i read this meta on tumblr about the one acceptable female character and the fandom sociological reasons for the archetypes that usually fall prey to this syndrome. sullivan: let's be real, she was the real lois lane! although phillips acknowledges that kidder is the best representation of lois' personality, he claims that durance is the best overall embodiment of the character. the way, i also shipped ollie with lois so to me, was a bit difficult to accept at the beginning.[43] darren swimmer revealed that tess would develop a romantic interest in clark as well. it is a success, and lana is imbued with super-powers of her own. clark and oliver are wise to her plan, however, and clark dresses up as green arrow to throw lois off oliver's trail. while unconscious, oliver relives the time he was shipwrecked on an island and how he first learned to shoot a bow. all the things smallville got wrong, though, i'll always appreciate the show for giving us chloe (and their versions of lex and lionel, but that's for another thread! i bought how lois lane fell in love with clark, i think it was realistic, but not how clark end up loving lois (especially in s9, after the lana thing, in season 8 i thought that, although he didn't love lois, i understood he was beginning to see her in another way). it was all very low-key and under the guise of 'they're erasing her ethnicity' but if you scratch beneath the faux-political-correctedness - it was a bunch of white girl geeks complaining that a traditionally white character had been 'racebent' & was the love interest above their blonde-haired-blue-eyed self insert.  no, i don't think he wanted to say it meant nothing but i think he was really uncertain still of what this change to their friendship could mean and scared of messing things up. in "faςade", chloe convinces her to become a reporter for the torch in an effort to help lois earn some of her remaining credits.  and chloe's belief in clark and in knowing the real him broke zatana's spell and let him become who he really was. hated her for downplaying the deal with lionel to clark in whisper and to pauline kahn in thirst by removing all responsibility and agency from herself and transferring it to lionel — insinuating that she was blackmailed when she made the deal of her own choice. clark didn't even promise chloe anything, why she felt entitled to his personal life boggles the mind. i even see chloe as a more natural fit for the brilliant, stop-at-nothing-to-get-the-truth reporter role that lois soon occupied.

Chloe Sullivan: Let's Be Real, She was the Real Lois Lane

  for giving into a weak moment and thinking, why should i worry so much about clark when he's not worried about me and accepting an offer that she then still never betrayed clark over and then tried to get out of, her father lost his job, never really recovered financially and she was nearly killed and then was blackballed at the dp and had to start over (over from being in the dp's good graces when she was a summer intern, not the column stuff).  she never denied she had feelings for clark but she was imo being honest that by the time he returned, she didn't expect anything from clark no matter what her feelings were  and i'm not sure clark was self confident enough to assume that chloe would still be in love with him and that the end of the world situation hadn't been the cause of her amped up feelings.  had jimmy not swooped in, i think clark might have had a chance to process and not just accept everything she said at face value.  since sebastian could be argued as ambiguous, i don't completely hold chloe's feet to the fire for that one, but her actions lined up with the way the character was going and did go - doing something to protect clark even if it was something he would disapprove of.  (again that's where bargaining with the universe explains so much)  still, jimmy had to be a nice distraction and a balm to the wounds she was hiding.'s not my fault that legal rigamaroll caused the show runners to drop a character into the show four seasons in with the name lois to strengthen their case but after a pair of intro episodes decided to ditch 70 years of characteristics. he did not like her having so much of the story time in season 8.  this was the episode where lois and clark were having their wedding.-she was the one that always cared for clark, no matter the situation (what about season 9, and in season 8 with davis, she may have had done bad choices but she never forget clark and his destiny to be fullfilled somehow). i thought she was awesome enough being herself, and the thought of chloe actually being lois never even entered my mind, unless the show was overtly teasing it. show made mistakes with lois for sure but that would only make her a poor lois. the full blown version of chlois was ever to happen (the version where chloe literally takes on the name lois lane vs the one where she keeps her name but is smallville's version of that character. being resourceful and determined but also in it for the greater good. can't speak for shows i don't watch but your example of arrow, the problem isn't everyone latching onto the "everywoman the hero just doesn't see" for one, he's totally in love with that girl right now so yeah, he sees her and she's not an everywoman (nor was chloe) since felicity on arrow is flat out more brilliant than any of the other characters.  then it's not very long until chloe knows his secret and now their friendship is even more important to both of them. by the end of the episode, the procedure is complete, and lana becomes just as strong and invulnerable as clark. and jimmy are kidnapped after their engagement party by a jeweler who wants to test their love. verdict's brian byun felt that the casting of the series was "pitch-perfect"; noting that kreuk is "painfully luminous" as lana lang, which makes it obvious why she is the object of clark's obsession., chloe is my favourite and don't  approve everything she did (sebastian my main concern over the series). then she hugs clark but walks away without a hug to her husband or lois. although she did not truly love lex, kreuk argues that lex was not a rebound guy and that lana did have feelings for him. the oliver scenes where he calls her out and she weakly says it was brainiac and then goes along with covering it up is what created ambiguity for me - i was willing to write off sebastian as mainly brainiac's influence before that. with this new strength, speed, and every other power, lana gets increasingly corrupt until she wants to get revenge on lex for every despicable thing he has done to her.'m never a fan of the character who keeps snooping around their crush, even though their crush keeps telling to stop and mind their own business. also don't think that chloe threw jimmy up in front of clark, at least not in the sense of 'look somebody likes me' cause again i think she genuinely thought clark wouldn't be interested and she'd kind of made her peace with it. do you guys see as the best episodes/seasons for the chloe/clark dynamic and for chloe in general? for clark, i'm pretty sure after dealing with doomsday, jor-el brainwashed him and messed with his memory so he only thought he was in love with lois, cause what i saw on screen was him finally just barely learning to like her.  then it's not very long until chloe knows his secret and now their friendship is even more important to both of them. as the first season progresses, lana grows closer to clark, while whitney begins to distance himself because of his father's medical ailments. john and clark work together on the attack, with john indicating that there have been others and that davis has been the first to arrive on each of the scenes.  she kept gaining skills in a generally related area , starting small and growing in ability.[47] she also teams up with the amazon princess diana prince, and deo's agent steve trevor was one of lois's former boyfriends. lang is a fictional character on the television series smallville. still had the jimmy problem and added the meteor power problem but there was a lot of good stuff in it too and it built up a long list of comparisons between lana and chloe (where lana did not come off looking good) that tricked me into believing there would be payoff as clark's lana blinders finally came off.  she was never going to chose him first even if it wasn't clark and jimmy imo revealed his nasty side with the break up, comments on line about her and the attempted thefts. clark goes undercover as a cop to identify the shooter. it's just the chloe fans seem to yell louder and gives the optical illusion there are more of them. if chloe had done that both clark and the world would have fallen multiple times.  it's not lois vs chloe and it's certainly not chlark vs clois. refused to build her career on the back of clark's ability but she was passionate about journalism and even after being fired, her brain taking over by an evil alien computer, having to give up her life twice - three times counting season nine when she put back together the justice league and still when she finally had the chance to choose what she wanted in life, she went back to reporting.  even after she was out of journalism, she remained his go to person for assistance and help. the series recounts the early adventures of kryptonian clark kent as he adjusts to life in the fictional town of smallville, kansas, during the years before he becomes superman. as if any lois would believe that the ends justify the means, which chloe clearly does. swear they were the couple that if they could have just locked them in a cellar for a day everything would have just spilled out and their rescue party would have found them making out in the corner. at the beginning of the season lana is forced to come to terms with her diminished feelings for whitney, as well as her growing feelings for clark.  (again that's where bargaining with the universe explains so much)  still, jimmy had to be a nice distraction and a balm to the wounds she was hiding. could have written a solid lois and clark love story but they didn't so this never ending contention will probably be never ending but that's fine. chloe and davis leave the fortress and smallville, going off the grid so that clark and oliver can not track them.^ "america online and teen people announce nominees for the 2003 teen choice awards on fox (page 2)".  the show gave that to me, i didn't have to make up anything. but clois had to happen :( i hated clois since the beginning.[38] by season three, kreuk had decided to "invest" herself less in her character, as she felt that her character's ultimate development was entirely in the hands of the producers.  she could have laid low using her cousin's identity for awhile, even anonymously submitting articles to the planet under  lois's name while everything settled down or blatantly used her missing and presumed dead cousin's name as her non de plume to honor her absence. clark stops maxima and uses her bracelet to send her back to her home planet; he also learns that tess has his crystal. by the time dark clark got his head screwed back on right, chloe had to go in hiding so she could once again save everyone.(i mean she pulled the friends card at the start of season two but clark gave her reason to do it. jimmy goes on the hunt to identify the mysterious "good samaritan", and chloe tells clark that he should use this opportunity to create an alter ego for himself like oliver has with "green arrow". clark's secret no longer an issue, the two begin a real relationship in the season seven episode "fierce"., these are a few reasons why, for me, in this universe, chloe should have been, at the end, the authentic lois lane. clark's dishonesty over the secrets he is hiding causes their relationship to end. let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity. a scenario where the show kept going for more seasons, they could have had chloe kind of reach a place where now she's moved on from her feelings while clark is the one crushing and she's oblivious, thus restarting the romance along the more traditional lines of the comics.[21] when her relationship with clark hits a breaking point in season five's "hypnotic",[22] she begins to grow closer to lex. season focuses on clark kent as he starts his job at the daily planet, begins to accept more of his destiny as earth's hero, and develops romantic feelings for lois lane.[35] gough describes the character as coming from the school of hard knocks; she is street smart, and a very capable woman.  the clark-chloe scenes in lineage (when he confronts her about snooping into his adoption and later when they're talking again), and clark and chloe talking in the woods in vortex (the "better off as friends" speech). adoption is such a private & sensitive subject and was completely between clark & his parents. she (and others) sabotaged every one of clark's plans to deal with doomsday during that s8 arc and then assigned him half the blame/blamed his moral compass after it turned out horribly.[29] in the episode "beacon", with chloe's help, lois rallies faithful fans of "the blur" and repeals the vigilante registration act (vra), helping clark and the justice league preserve their secret identities. world was ending in the sense that they might never have seen each other again if clark died or got trapped.[1] she eventually becomes a tragic figure in smallville, as the decisions made by clark and lex change the character over the course of the show. especially freaked and imo i think she really had convinced herself at that point that clark didn't view the kiss the way she had. unfortunately, general zod's wife, faora, also escapes and takes over lois's body. tess tries to convince clark that she knows who he is, and her theory about his needing to kill davis, but she fails. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character. up against the most recognizable version of lois lane, margot kidder, the 2006 film incarnation played by kate bosworth, and the previous live-action television version portrayed by teri hatcher, erica durance was rated the highest.  since sebastian could be argued as ambiguous, i don't completely hold chloe's feet to the fire for that one, but her actions lined up with the way the character was going and did go - doing something to protect clark even if it was something he would disapprove of. as durance explains, "[lois has] got her confidence as a journalist and on the inside, she's going oh my god i'm truly in love with [clark], more in love than i've ever been with anyone. still think clark should have fought for her, but maybe it was the first unselfish thing he did for her. i hated her behavior with lana when lana was forced to be editor of the torch - she acted like lana was trying to steal clark and the torch away from her. in an elseworlds story where clark is found by the waynes and becomes batman, he meets a lois who scorns his brutality.

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a scenario where the show kept going for more seasons, they could have had chloe kind of reach a place where now she's moved on from her feelings while clark is the one crushing and she's oblivious, thus restarting the romance along the more traditional lines of the comics. faora sets out to find her son, who turns out to be davis – faora explains that he was created when faora and zod could not have children. clark didn't even promise chloe anything, why she felt entitled to his personal life boggles the mind. like, she should have let davis transform and get away while she had the black k, so everyone could blame her for standing around doing nothing while doomsday killed everybody? hated that she was harboring and covering up the murders of a serial killer. chloe was devastated when the principal made her step down from editor, lois wouldn't be fazed one bit by that, she wouldn't care who was the editor, she'd just go on investigating.  i never understood why clark was upset when she split him. was fine for me, but i'd have preferred clark to chose chloe. clark discovers that there was no bomb on the bus, but that someone blew it up with their meteor power.  but oddly enough, i think the longer he probably thought about it, the more he saw jimmy as chloe's chance at normal and clark viewed normal as better than anything he could offer which might sound unselfish but is imo more a case of self pity and fear. moody believes that durance's lois is "one of the best versions of the character" because durance plays her as "tough, brainy, sexy and catty", which makes her portrayal that much better than kate bosworth's lois lane in superman returns. clark never said one word to her & he didn't even hug her back when she left. when jimmy died, how was it that she who suffered the most from both davis and jimmy's death is the only one strong enough not to run away. at least not anymore perfect or fortunate than fan-favorite chloe who went from being the best hacker in the world in high school to the best reporter in the world to a superhero to a superhero's loving wife and mother of his kid. all the things smallville got wrong, though, i'll always appreciate the show for giving us chloe (and their versions of lex and lionel, but that's for another thread! instead, clark decides to use black kryptonite to split davis from doomsday, and bury the beast a mile underground. that episode when chloe is inside lois' body was hard to watch in my opinion. so she threw in the "whole world was ending" nonsense, which clark wasn't buying, but what else could he do? it adds depth to the character by showing how she struggled before becoming "the reporter we all know and love". and chloe started badly, because she basically started dating him because she felt insecure after kissing clark. clark wasn't standing there in shock, but was fully participating. that was her main focus & helping clark out here & there. i mean, i was never involved with fandom for this show, but i'm betting there are just as many lana fans as chloe fans. while looking for clues, clark again encounters john jones, who, since losing his powers, has taken a job as a police detective. smallville i backed chloe because i was schooled in the superman myhthos and smallville was superman just in highschool but as an origin story, but not superboy (according even to the lawsuit they were fighting)  so chloe was not intended as a split version of lana but the lois character on the show. after clark talks with chloe, he realizes that lana never returned because she was busy plotting her revenge against lex..unless the plot needed her to be damseled and then she was helpless. as a result, tess steals the crystal that opens the phantom zone and destroys it, all at the request from a disembodied voice claiming to be from kandor that emanates from the kryptonian orb she has. i hated that she tried to argue for clark to kill lex in s8.  i was very sorry that the ensuing story structure didn't keep him around. it was all very low-key and under the guise of 'they're erasing her ethnicity' but if you scratch beneath the faux-political-correctedness - it was a bunch of white girl geeks complaining that a traditionally white character had been 'racebent' & was the love interest above their blonde-haired-blue-eyed self insert. however, lois tries not to reveal her relationship with clark to lana. are two new characters added to the show as series regulars, tess mercer and davis bloome.'s little moments like that which, for me, sum up nicely 2 of chloe's better qualities, her loyalty and her smarts. her attempt to craft a news story out of the situation lands her a job at the daily planet—in the basement alongside her cousin chloe. the second meteor shower, lana witnesses the landing of an alien spacecraft, and two alien beings emerging and killing everyone in sight in the season five premiere. "roundtable interview with executive producers kelly souders and brian peterson (part 1)". so i don't think it had anything to do with insecurity, but everything to do with his bda ass choosing and mooning over lana, and thus saving herself from yet another heartache, since they were both in a good place. kreuk recognizes that lex is a big part of lana's life, and that lana tries to pay more attention to the good that lex does and focus less on the darker aspects of his life. clark and chloe discover that lana was not kidnapped, but intends to use lex's "prometheus" technology, which harnesses alien dna to give an individual super-human abilities, on herself. then there were those longing and yearning looks clark sent chloe in season six. chloe, however, even says to oliver in roulette that the psychological torture she put him through was 'what needed to be done' and later, she implies that she aligns with 'doing what's necessary' versus 'doing what's right. was never one who believed that she'd turn out to be lois lane. do you guys see as the best episodes/seasons for the chloe/clark dynamic and for chloe in general? i hated her immediately in the pilot and it just grew and grew. hated the nice guy crap she pulled with clark and lana.  the other issue i have with comparing arrow and smallville is that while fandoms in smallville divided into their camps, i know i've said all along on arrow anyone but laurel as a romantic interest. she was anti meteor freaks and thought they all were bad until the moment she was going to be the savior to them all and gets credit for founding isis from the legion of superheroes even though she actually left before it was doing anything.: superman in other mediadc comics characters who can move at superhuman speedsdc comics characters with superhuman strengthdc comics characters with accelerated healingdc comics martial artistsfictional adopteesfictional businesspeoplefictional cheerleaderssmallville charactersfictional american people of french descentfictional characters introduced in 2001fictional waiting staffhidden categories: all articles with dead external linksarticles with dead external links from june 2017articles with permanently dead external linksuse mdy dates from september 2012pages using deprecated image syntaxpages using infobox character with unknown parametersgood articles. that is when he had clark distance himself from chloe.  i seriously disagree that people being upset that the actress and the audience was being treated in a demeaning way was about faux political correctness.^ "pilot" commentary by al gough, miles millar and david nutter (dvd). i hated her immediately in the pilot and it just grew and grew. he never would have wanted her to leave with davis & she didn't trust clark at all. durance came on set that first afternoon and the two hit it off, becoming friends and developing a brother/sister relationship on the set. but, more importantly, not in a universe where, after having realized that, maybe, he and lana are star-crossed lovers, the girl that had always been there to be his partner; chloe, still was there, waiting for him.[12] in season six's "prototype", lois discovers that lex has been doing experimental research on army soldiers, one of which was her best friend. smallville first began, lana was in a romantic relationship with whitney fordman, the star quarterback of the football team.-lois was good in her job, but chloe lost hers while lois won it mainly because grant wanted her and had some luck with the tabloids. versions where lois has been briefly involved with bruce wayne, she disdains batman's methods. hours ago, amensisterfriend said:What did you guys think of her with ollie? i never disliked her, just didn't find her all that compelling when she was sitting around pining for clark.  chloe seemed like she was only comfortable sharing part of who she was and while i do think oliver loved her, not sure her knew her or that she even could let him in all the way. told clark to kill lex in s7 and s8 iirc. the worst part was her twisting the knife in her back, with saying clark has told her everything!  chimmy seemed truly dead and buried even before jimmy died. chloe was devastated when the principal made her step down from editor, lois wouldn't be fazed one bit by that, she wouldn't care who was the editor, she'd just go on investigating.)somebody can argue that she had some trouble this season in terms of love: she liked davis and loved jimmy but still loved clark: because we know from abyss he was her more precious one in her life -maybe not love? i hated the way fandom valorized her, even while she was being *problematic* and i hated how they maligned and slut-shamed other female characters in favor of chloe. she can care about lex and want the best for him, but i don't think she could fall blindly in love with him. chloe was devastated when the principal made her step down from editor, lois wouldn't be fazed one bit by that, she wouldn't care who was the editor, she'd just go on investigating. davis remembers that he was hurt by kryptonite as a child, and has chloe lock him in a tank and drown him in a kryptonite solution until he dies.[15] while at the daily planet, lois begins a new relationship with her editor grant gabriel (michael cassidy) in the episode "wrath"[email protected] as someone who has had this discussion, in one variation or the other, for the entire decade i watched this show - i will just say that your experience with the smallville fandom and my experience with it are vastly different and live it at that." during a lightning storm, a high-voltage bolt mixed with kryptonite transfers clark's powers to lana, making her as super as clark., i liked chloe, but some of her fans nitpicking, twisting & sometimes just outright lying about lana & lois every move, while glorifying chloe is just so wrong & takes away my enjoyment of chloe a bit. only agreed to come back for seasons 9 & 10 if he had more control over clark.  while the show didn't write either in a real world realistic manner, it did a much more consistent job of building on how they had always been writing chloe.[33] in the series finale, clark convinces lois that her being in his life makes him stronger, but the ceremony is interrupted by darkseid's sudden invasion of the earth. the person chloe was most similar to, at least early on, was actually pre-crisis lana down to the teenage journalism and the unrequited feelings towards clark. it is also revealed that tess is in possession of the kryptonian orb that took clark's powers.

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told clark to kill lex in s7 and s8 iirc. i hated the way fandom valorized her, even while she was being *problematic* and i hated how they maligned and slut-shamed other female characters in favor of chloe. anyway, chloe knows about clark's powers at this point, knows he has super hearing, knows lex is up to no good, so she whispers from a distance for clark not to trust lex, and she knows clark will hear it.  it was like every year the writers just couldn't help write clark in the direction i wanted it to start going and then they'd wrench it off track and force in clana or clois instead.  i won't ever consider those sites as a legitimate representation of the viewership or fandom. the person chloe was most similar to, at least early on, was actually pre-crisis lana down to the teenage journalism and the unrequited feelings towards clark. comes back and he expects to have a conversation about that kiss but he was clearly nervous. i hated her stance on murder - i remember her telling clark to kill lex in 7x19 by claiming clark was a god, implying that he was beyond the rules of human morality such as murder. just like he was the one who started to initiate the kiss that almost happened in season one. one of chloe's isis clients attacks davis and jimmy, and after clark subdues him, the client confesses to all of the murders. isn't even necessarily the type of character i usually love and relate to, but allison mack gave her a real vulnerability and depth imo that makes me love her even more while rewatching. makes her first literary appearance in smallville: strange visitors, published by aspect. clark goes looking for stiletto, in an effort to track down chloe's laptop that contains files on oliver and his team, and discovers that lois is stiletto. lois organizes jimmy and chloe's wedding, oliver shows up on the kent farm and informs clark that lex is still alive, but he needs clark's help to find lex's exact location. well, she did the actual reporting, editing and made the torch what it was; she interned, worked like a dog to get the story.  then when he does show up he played the part of the attentive boyfriend but far too often chloe was forced to play dumb to boost his ego  and she never trusted him over clark (or davis but braininac was influencing that) and when jimmy finally realized he wasn't her first place priority, he turned on her, robbed her, called her foul names, humiliated her in public and then shows up at the end like all that could be swept under the rug.  had clark not been whisked away to face lex/zod, i think clark and chloe's friendship would have kept growing at a natural pace toward that something more but i think the trauma that pushed chloe to show clark once again how much he meant to her (and imo him to her vice versa) meant that neither of them had quite gotten to that mental place where they were brave enough or confident enough to own up to their feelings without the pressure of the end of the world. anyway, chloe knows about clark's powers at this point, knows he has super hearing, knows lex is up to no good, so she whispers from a distance for clark not to trust lex, and she knows clark will hear it. show didn't write as lana as perfect or particularly fortunate. lana acquired skills just for the demand of the plot. season 8, after clark lost lana, she still loved clark but encouraged him on moving to lois.[16] their relationship comes under scrutiny from chloe and lex in "blue", with chloe seeing it as a reason for co-workers to doubt lois's true ability as a journalist, and lex believing it will jeopardize the secret of grant's true identity.  as i pointed out, chloe paid for her mistakes, learned from them and grew. hours ago, andysmith said:I liked her and ollie, but that might have had more to do with the chemistry between allison and justin than the actual writing.[1] the next season began to develop more of the relationship between lex and lana. this was the point when i knew clark would never love her. lana is aware that chloe still has romantic feelings for clark, but their friendship suffered the most when chloe revealed that she had known where clark had been hiding for months. think even another minute after the kiss for them to process just a little bit what had just happened between them would have helped keep doubts at bay but instead they were interrupted and had to put their personal feelings instantly aside.  chloe seemed like she was only comfortable sharing part of who she was and while i do think oliver loved her, not sure her knew her or that she even could let him in all the way. just like he was the one who started to initiate the kiss that almost happened in season one.  and clark probably would have tried hard to resist his feelings cause chloe would be giving off clear signs that he'd missed out. she will always love clark, and clark will always love her, but it was clark's bad decisions, and lex's "basest instincts" that make lana the "receptacle of all of these bad decisions", marking her as a tragic figure on the show. he should have called her on her bullshit, and said it meant something to him, but then she threw jimmy up there-who, to me, was just protecting herself from being hurt by clark, in case lana came sniffing back. producer kelly souders explained that the loss of show creators alfred gough and miles millar, as well as series regulars michael rosenbaum and kristin kreuk at the end of the seventh season, forced the creative team to look at the show from a new angle. show didn't write as lana as perfect or particularly fortunate. chloe was devastated when the principal made her step down from editor, lois wouldn't be fazed one bit by that, she wouldn't care who was the editor, she'd just go on investigating. according to kreuk, the character was never placed in situations where she could show her outgoing side, because she was left to communicate primarily with whitney and clark.  like someone said, chloe was almost the willow rosenberg of this show and i have such strong feelings about dark!  i would have loved watching clark pine for a while., she told clark to do something about lex each time when clark was dithering and not acting while lex was actively targeting him. it illuminated chloe's character and her treatment by fandom for me. oliver convinces lana to come back to smallville, and she arrives at the wedding interrupting clark and lois just as they are about to kiss. hated that she was harboring and covering up the murders of a serial killer. clark tells chloe that it is human-learned emotions that have caused him the most trouble, and vows that "clark kent is dead"; the orb returns to tess and releases zod. laruel's chlois problem had nothing to do with a fan favorite everywoman unless her back from the dead assassin trained sister sara who lacked the name but had the outfits, the training, the signature power, and the comic book pseudo adoptive family could be considered an everywoman (the other only acceptable woman trope perhaps? she believes that with everything that had happened throughout the season between the two characters, it seemed a bit of a stretch for lana to just quickly fall into clark's arms.  i also think she probably spent the whole time clark was missing making bargains with the universe, probably along the lines of "please let him just come back to me safe and i promise i will never be unhappy ever again just being friends. the monster arrives at the ceremony, where he critically injures jimmy and kidnaps chloe; he then takes chloe to the fortress of solitude. clark declines his immediate assistance, explaining that chloe no longer knows his secret and would never understand why he could not give her away at her wedding. the first came in 2005, after her first season with the show,[41] and then again the following year. writer brian peterson discusses how the writing staff chose to develop the character: "in the smallville pilot, al and miles established lex and clark as best friends, which is, to me, one of the best aspects of the show. lana acquired skills just for the demand of the plot. liked her and ollie, but that might have had more to do with the chemistry between allison and justin than the actual writing. developer al gough contends that it was always the producer's intention to bring in the iconic lois lane, they just needed a good reason to do it—chloe's supposed death at the end of season three appeared to be that reason.  as for davis, chloe and clark both made bad choices and the number one imo being not listening to each other so the convoluted reasons why things happened wouldn't have been needed. oliver convinces her to return to smallville so that she can attend chloe's wedding. the first one we saw in "hug" where clark smirked when that guy told chloe she had feelings for clark and to kiss him, only to have his eyes bug out when she laid one on him. by using this site, you agree to the terms of use and privacy policy. season of smallville was perfect, but i think 5 did a great job of giving everyone watching something to enjoy. hours ago, doram said:And let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity. in this case, lois is acting more mature, taking charge in being a mentor to clark as he transitions into his new job.  had clark not been whisked away to face lex/zod, i think clark and chloe's friendship would have kept growing at a natural pace toward that something more but i think the trauma that pushed chloe to show clark once again how much he meant to her (and imo him to her vice versa) meant that neither of them had quite gotten to that mental place where they were brave enough or confident enough to own up to their feelings without the pressure of the end of the world. opening of season five he corrected her from thinking he was meteor infected and shared his true identity when he didn't have to.[1] smallville's interpretation of lois was designed to embody similar traits to that of various leading female characters in the film. i hated the way fandom valorized her, even while she was being *problematic* and i hated how they maligned and slut-shamed other female characters in favor of chloe.  believe me, i was completely astounded at what they did with her character and the send off they gave her in regards to first lois and then clark. but it's present day - and most people don't seem able to talk about lana lang or kristin kreuk without making offensive digs about her.[13] as a result, lois decides in "phantom" to begin looking into lex's luthorcorp projects.[31] davis bloome would actually be smallville's interpretation of doomsday, the only character to have succeeded at killing superman. smallville i backed chloe because i was schooled in the superman myhthos and smallville was superman just in highschool but as an origin story, but not superboy (according even to the lawsuit they were fighting)  so chloe was not intended as a split version of lana but the lois character on the show.[26] ultimately, lois deduces clark's true identity as "the blur" in the season nine finale. returns from the 31st century and informs clark that doomsday will kill him, and gives him a new legion ring to transport doomsday to the future. the actress also relates to lois's sassy, and independent nature, but, conversely, she is not as extroverted as lois. can't speak for shows i don't watch but your example of arrow, the problem isn't everyone latching onto the "everywoman the hero just doesn't see" for one, he's totally in love with that girl right now so yeah, he sees her and she's not an everywoman (nor was chloe) since felicity on arrow is flat out more brilliant than any of the other characters. chloe, however, even says to oliver in roulette that the psychological torture she put him through was 'what needed to be done' and later, she implies that she aligns with 'doing what's necessary' versus 'doing what's right. i hated the big brother crap she pulled because the show never actually went full tilt with it and, then, it was all swept under the rug, including her role in doomsday. at least chloe seemed to have a genuine reason (wall of weirdness) driving her to find out what was going on with clark, besides her crush on clark. it's just the chloe fans seem to yell louder and gives the optical illusion there are more of them. kreuk thinks that it can be hard to believe that a sixteen-year-old girl could become co-owner of a coffee shop, but she believes that it helps to provide more independence for the character and establish her more within the show.  the feelings for each of them were real, but the reveal got rushed and they both were afraid. chloe & lois love each other, and the actresses really like each other a lot, and hate how some of their fans feel the need to bash the other.

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  clark was far more muddled on if he should kill or not than chloe but then she also saw that his inaction led to deaths just as much as his actions might. she wanted them to be completely honest with her and when they weren't, she turned around and gave into lionel. next time chloe risked showing her feelings he gave her a kiss on the cheek and the mind addling "at least not right now".  ick, i hated that impassive disinterest that i think was supposed to pass for faith, but then her faith and belief was that clark had all the answers, was a god, and shouldn't be bothered with the distractions of an ordinary life proving to me that she didn't know him at all. still had the jimmy problem and added the meteor power problem but there was a lot of good stuff in it too and it built up a long list of comparisons between lana and chloe (where lana did not come off looking good) that tricked me into believing there would be payoff as clark's lana blinders finally came off. though clark and bart allen do not notice her, she watches them race over the coast of cameroon. but it's present day - and most people don't seem able to talk about lana lang or kristin kreuk without making offensive digs about her. clark finally confesses his secret to her in "isis" and they begin their relationship again free of secrets. oh and she went from not in my memory even turning on a computer to having and being perfectly capable of utilizing a set up so advanced and powerful that chloe when brainiac was in her head was still impressed. having sex with jimmy when she was an intern & their three season relationship, getting engaged and married, proclaiming their undying devotion to each other in the season 8 finale and him dying in her arms was beautiful and tragic. i think that because we chose such a different take on her, it wasn't that intimidating. 02/10/2016 at 4:02 pm, doram said:And let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity. have a lot of thoughts on chloe and chlark and how even when i try not to see it i honestly see chloe as closer to my conception of lois lane and smallville's lois lane as immensely grating and unlikable, but you all have heard them all before :). after they are acquainted, lois learns that lana has been using her abilities to protect children from people who would exploit them." i thought she had some of the traits i associate with lois (which made sense given they are cousins), but there were always things about her character that i didn't see as very lois-like. i think despite chloe being there and knowing that clark kissed her back, she wasn't at all certain that clark wasn't just caught up in the moment or indulging her last request. at least chloe seemed to have a genuine reason (wall of weirdness) driving her to find out what was going on with clark, besides her crush on clark.[5] lana's aunt nell moves to metropolis with her fiancé in the season two episode "ryan", but lana opts to move in with her friend chloe sullivan (allison mack) so that she may finish high school in smallville. instead at this point, durance believes that clark and lois are satisfied with identifying with a "brother-sister friendship" label, than trying to discover how they both truly feel about each other. than her also harping and butting her nose in trying to find out the "truth" about clark's "real" and "biological" parents.  she was so clearly set up as not good for clark in the long term. hours ago, doram said:And let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity. oh and she went from not in my memory even turning on a computer to having and being perfectly capable of utilizing a set up so advanced and powerful that chloe when brainiac was in her head was still impressed. she was infected by brainiac, but brainiac had nothing to gain from killing sebastian and chloe did. lane is a fictional character on the television series smallville; she was portrayed continually by erica durance since her first appearance in the season four premier "crusade" to the series finale. for the davis/doomsday stuff, clark said she was right in stopping him from sticking davis in the zone. she learned clark's secret and became a real ally, though, i started to really enjoy her more. developers gough and millar had always envisioned bringing the character of lois lane to smallville, but it was not until the end of season three that the creative team had the right storyline to bring her in. beyond the inherent lois traits that exist in lois(es) regardless of whether they work at a newspaper or love a superman, lois wouldn't advocate cold-blooded murder or tell a superman to do it. have a lot of thoughts on chloe and chlark and how even when i try not to see it i honestly see chloe as closer to my conception of lois lane and smallville's lois lane as immensely grating and unlikable, but you all have heard them all before :). a casual love affair would have been ok, but not in a universe where chloe exists in clark's life. i hated that she sold out her bff and got a daily planet column in return for her services to lionel. tess confronts lois about stealing the kryptonian orb, but as the two fight, lois finds the legion ring and is transported to another time in history. i've seen similar sentiments and wondered how to answer, as it's as if we were watching different shows. it illuminated chloe's character and her treatment by fandom for me. lois got to be blissfully ignorant and when she did know, she was fine letting clark handle his problems he could tell her or not.   in hindsight i am very puzzled why the following season the show runners decided to move in the opposite direction of what seemed to get them those good ratings and positive buzz in season five and over the summer. lane makes her first appearance in season four's "crusade" when she comes to smallville investigating the death of her cousin chloe sullivan (allison mack). i don't think he unselfishly stepped out of the picture, but rather he was too uncertain of what chloe really felt and afraid of the risk he'd be taking with their friendship, at least in that first moment when suddenly his expectations were turned upside down. a scenario where the show kept going for more seasons, they could have had chloe kind of reach a place where now she's moved on from her feelings while clark is the one crushing and she's oblivious, thus restarting the romance along the more traditional lines of the comics. clark regains the memory of his alien heritage with help from chloe, and convinces zatanna not to sacrifice herself but instead use her gifts to honor her father's memory. mainly only stuck to the big issues as to why i couldn't stand miss chloe sullivan. the first season, lana and clark kent (tom welling) are just beginning their friendship, as she is a popular cheerleader dating star quarterback whitney fordman (eric johnson), and clark cannot get near her without getting sick from the kryptonite necklace she wears. hours ago, doram said:And let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity. i don't think he unselfishly stepped out of the picture, but rather he was too uncertain of what chloe really felt and afraid of the risk he'd be taking with their friendship, at least in that first moment when suddenly his expectations were turned upside down. i almost became a lawyer and i can tell you for a fact that's not how it works. definitely filled in the role of "clarke's friend who knows his secret" much better than pete did, and was certainly a heck of a lot more useful. in the end, davis returns to life and is now immune to kryptonite; he informs chloe that her presence is the only thing that keeps doomsday at bay. it illuminated chloe's character and her treatment by fandom for me. when he goes to jor-el and he tells him she should stop thinking of his "beloved ones". lois lane actress erica durance, explained the episodes would be more focused on her character than they have been in the past, and that lois and clark would be both rivals and supportive partners to each other. was never one who believed that she'd turn out to be lois lane.  it would be reasonable that chloe/lois would take a lot of convincing before she'd trust clark's feelings.  i seriously disagree that people being upset that the actress and the audience was being treated in a demeaning way was about faux political correctness. and his arms most certainly did close around her in a hug. i'll never understand how apparently, carrying out a plan because someone else can't is considered sabotaging it. liked the episodes when she knows his secret and he is not aware. chloe visits sebastian, and when she learns that he knows clark's secret she uses her abilities to give him a stroke.-and clark felt in love with lois out of a sudden. hours ago, andysmith said:I liked her and ollie, but that might have had more to do with the chemistry between allison and justin than the actual writing.  but oddly enough, i think the longer he probably thought about it, the more he saw jimmy as chloe's chance at normal and clark viewed normal as better than anything he could offer which might sound unselfish but is imo more a case of self pity and fear. may not have advocated specifically for clark to kill someone, but she also never advocated for him not to once she knew his secret.  clark is the one that suggests she's saying kill him. she protected him and kept his secret and saved his life more than a few times even before he knew she knew. at least not anymore perfect or fortunate than fan-favorite chloe who went from being the best hacker in the world in high school to the best reporter in the world to a superhero to a superhero's loving wife and mother of his kid. i hate joss whedon and his laughable faux feminism sfm but at least he wasn't afraid to go there.  and with him, she acted like a pod person, bent and twisted to be something less so he would feel better. and his arms most certainly did close around her in a hug. and she finished the show once again as a journalist! her effort is rendered moot when lex luthor and dr.  she never denied she had feelings for clark but she was imo being honest that by the time he returned, she didn't expect anything from clark no matter what her feelings were  and i'm not sure clark was self confident enough to assume that chloe would still be in love with him and that the end of the world situation hadn't been the cause of her amped up feelings. still think clark should have fought for her, but maybe it was the first unselfish thing he did for her.[31] smallville also introduced the futuristic heroes from the legion of super-heroes. she has a "hole in her heart", because of the loss of her parents, and feels empathy for everyone. remember that after requiem, that clark wants to go back time (destroying everything he learned in reckoning) and, if it could be possible, to the exact moment he has to pick up lois.  as to why brainiac acted, it was a dropped plot line but it seemed pretty clear to me later that it wasn't in brainiac's best interest to have clark's secret exposed to the world yet. have a lot of thoughts on chloe and chlark and how even when i try not to see it i honestly see chloe as closer to my conception of lois lane and smallville's lois lane as immensely grating and unlikable, but you all have heard them all before :). the scene where lana meets lex and climbs onto his car, lana is wearing wedges - in the scenes before and after she is clearly wearing stilettos. chloe informs clark about what has happened, and the pair track down zatanna. her obsessions also begin to affect her relationship with clark by the episode "wrath". being resourceful and determined but also in it for the greater good.

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have different opinions on man of steel (i liked it in spite of some plot holes and the destruction of most of manhattan) but i thought amy adams take on lois was very telling. strongly disagree that either clark or the actor playing him was over chloe as a character.  this was the episode where lois and clark were having their wedding. "smallville: erica durance on being lois lane: the actress talks about lois and clark's close new situation in season 8". the character has also appeared in various literature based on the smallville television series, none of which directly continues from or into the television episodes. comic book scribe geoff johns wrote the episode that featured the legion of super-heroes, and suggested that people familiar with the legion would recognize them when they appeared on the show, as they had some of the quintessential elements of their comic book counterparts. so she threw in the "whole world was ending" nonsense, which clark wasn't buying, but what else could he do? she wanted them to be completely honest with her and when they weren't, she turned around and gave into lionel. 2012, the smallville series was continued through the comic book medium with smallville: season 11. later, lois chalks up her "love" for clark as nothing more than a lie, which she was able to accomplish by slipping the lie-detector electrode off her finger. liked chloe better when the show didn't pretend she was hideous, unlovable and undeserving of life.  the feelings for each of them were real, but the reveal got rushed and they both were afraid. similarly with her reporting, she got called out on her issues as a reporter in the early seasons (including accepting shortcuts from lionel)  got knocked down and kept working her craft until it earned her a shot to work her way up. i understand she had feelings for him so i could see her being hurt & sad, but to be so angry to turn to lionel was too much.[7] just as the two give in to their feelings fully, clark unexpectedly runs away from smallville in the season two finale. relationship with jimmy failed again and again because she always chose clark over him so i strongly disagree that she only helped him here and there. season 8, after clark lost lana, she still loved clark but encouraged him on moving to lois.  i know it was when i was most hopeful about the show, both where it was and where it would be going. let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity.  (that and i wanted a lois lane type character though frankly the lois they eventually offered was a terrible fit and made me appreciate lana more. only agreed to come back for seasons 9 & 10 if he had more control over clark.[11] when oliver is forced to leave metropolis to track down all of lex's experimental facilities, in the episode "justice", his relationship with lois comes to an end. oliver would be broken down emotionally—questioning whether he made the right choice to sacrifice all for the sake of being green arrow—and that causes him to "butt heads" with clark, who is beginning to embrace his destiny.  i would have loved watching clark pine for a while. think even another minute after the kiss for them to process just a little bit what had just happened between them would have helped keep doubts at bay but instead they were interrupted and had to put their personal feelings instantly aside. i don't understand some fans who love one character have to bash & be nasty & cruel towards other characters.[1] kristin feels that deep down the character is a "tough girl", and that lex manages to bring that side of her out more. because she was greedy and because she saw clark/lana together. kreuk believes that by the time of the pilot lana had grown “comfortable” with whitney, and that was where their relationship ended.   i did and still do avoid certain forums that are notorious for people with toxic opinions.[45] her involvement with clark also allows her to meet gotham city's elusive vigilante batman,[46] and subsequently learn his secret identity and befriend batman's partner nightwing (barbara gordon).  it was lana lang's seeming "perfection" in spite of her glaring character flaws and the showrunners near obsession about her that drove people away from her character and to chloe. another ordinary day for chloe and clark fighting to save the world., clark and pete, being the scooby do gang, investigating, reporting. Kryptonite and high voltage mix during a lightning storm -- causing Lana to absorb Clark's powers.  even his supposed "never looked at chloe like that" moment only happened when lois was actually chloe and had been all day. chloe & lois love each other, and the actresses really like each other a lot, and hate how some of their fans feel the need to bash the other. kreuk believes that lana truly was in love with whitney when they first started dating, but by the time the audience first sees her in the pilot she is no longer in that same state of mind. hours ago, doram said:And let's face it - part of the reason why the fandom latched onto chloe so intensely was based on kristin kreuk's ethnicity.  no, i don't think he wanted to say it meant nothing but i think he was really uncertain still of what this change to their friendship could mean and scared of messing things up. davis visits chloe and confesses his love for her, and that he believes she is marrying the wrong man. mainly only stuck to the big issues as to why i couldn't stand miss chloe sullivan. chloe told clark to kill lex in s7 and s8 iirc. the complaints were why did the show think they had to pretend that lana didn't have roots beyond european ancestry? especially freaked and imo i think she really had convinced herself at that point that clark didn't view the kiss the way she had. he didn't have to say a word back at the farmhouse, his expression of surprise, regret, guilt and determination said it all. every fandom seems to have character wars and those wars are never as simple as they appear to be on the surface. lane returns to smallville and is not happy to see clark. by using this site, you agree to the terms of use and privacy policy.[16][17] in the season four finale "commencement", lana is confronted by jason's mother genevieve (jane seymour), who is also after the three stones of knowledge, and during a struggle isobel comes forward and kills genevieve. than her also harping and butting her nose in trying to find out the "truth" about clark's "real" and "biological" parents, after he asked her to drop it, and in season 8 and 9, chloe was my favorite character in this show. chloe remembered what almost happened with them at the end of season one, and how he hot trotted back to lana like pavlov's dog, and didn't want to be the one, again, to agree, that the kiss meant nothing, when it so clearly meant something to both of them. but clois had to happen :( i hated clois since the beginning. because as we saw with lana, despite her having a boyfriend, that didn't stop clark from pursuing her. as if any lois would believe that the ends justify the means, which chloe clearly does. that lois didn't have to worry about saving the world doesn't speak highly of her character to me. "the return of the sob sister in "superman returns": lois lane and the fight for truth and justice".  and with him, she acted like a pod person, bent and twisted to be something less so he would feel better."[35] for season six, the writers chose to start lois down the path of investigative journalism, only in this version of the character she gets her start working for a tabloid newspaper.[43] while lana was with clark, kreuk characterizes her as a "wimpy, whiny kind of girl"; with lex, lana is "strong, powerful, and doesn't have to question, 'what is going on?  she not only suddenly becomes interested in astronomy (which at least made a tiny bit of sense for once), she's great at it and easily gets accepted into a college she hadn't even applied for., these are a few reasons why, for me, in this universe, chloe should have been, at the end, the authentic lois lane. episode starts weakly and ends strong in the seventh episode of the seventh season of "smallville. after the character was cleared for more episodes, the creative team decided to plant her in the kent home so that she could provide a constant annoyance to clark. was instantly great and perfect at any random thing the plot required of her and usually it had nothing to do with any interests or preexisting skills, so yeah, i do think they wrote her as "perfect" at everything in that sense and in a way that was totally different from how they wrote chloe. when lana absorbs the kryptonite in this bomb to deactivate it, she becomes so irradiated that she and clark can never again be near each other.  she's not an everywoman by any standards i can understand unless everywoman is code for approachable?  and she's not the one that interfered with clark's plan to split davis, she just happened to figure it out when clark wasn't there. her keeping clark as a placer whenever whitney disappointed her, then would treat him like shit when he disappointed her, as if he, was her boyfriend. chloe, and clark's parents: martha, jonathan and jor-el (this one with strange methods) were the ones who made him what he was. doing some research, tess informs davis that he crash landed to earth in 1989, during the smallville meteor shower, alongside another boy. clark was the one that stopped listening to her so she was forced to save his butt..unless the plot needed her to be damseled and then she was helpless. the episode where she had the parasite & clark was on red k, i don't know why she couldn't just have fun kissing clark. chloe & lois love each other, and the actresses really like each other a lot, and hate how some of their fans feel the need to bash the other. refused to build her career on the back of clark's ability but she was passionate about journalism and even after being fired, her brain taking over by an evil alien computer, having to give up her life twice - three times counting season nine when she put back together the justice league and still when she finally had the chance to choose what she wanted in life, she went back to reporting.  she could have laid low using her cousin's identity for awhile, even anonymously submitting articles to the planet under  lois's name while everything settled down or blatantly used her missing and presumed dead cousin's name as her non de plume to honor her absence. was instantly great and perfect at any random thing the plot required of her and usually it had nothing to do with any interests or preexisting skills, so yeah, i do think they wrote her as "perfect" at everything in that sense and in a way that was totally different from how they wrote chloe..  by season 8, i was far more cynical about the chlois theory happening (after the new show runners came in i was more a sincere wisher than believer ) but the narrative pieces were still there and piling up. minutes ago, amensisterfriend said:What do you guys see as the best episodes/seasons for the chloe/clark dynamic and for chloe in general? a character page for:Find showtimes, watch trailers, browse photos, track your watchlist and rate your favorite movies and tv shows on your phone or tablet!

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[31][32] in the episode "prophecy", lois is given clark's powers for a day, as a wedding gift by his biological father jor-el, and realizes that the devotion they have for each other is clark's greatest weakness, and calls off the wedding. an alien, maxima, from the planet almerac recognizes the beacon as kryptonian and comes to earth to search for the kryptonian she believes sent for her."[43] mike moody of tv squad named lois as one of five reasons to watch smallville's eighth season. begins to suspect that davis is alive, and when the metropolis police issue a manhunt for davis, whom they believe to be a local serial killer, chloe decides it would be best if they both just left smallville.  by season 8, i was far more cynical about the chlois theory happening (after the new show runners came in i was more a sincere wisher than believer ) but the narrative pieces were still there and piling up.  my issues with lois are about her, not merely in comparison to chloe.[8] at the start of season three, it is shown that lana, alongside the kents, has been spending her time searching for clark; she ultimately finds him in metropolis thanks to chloe's help.  a few one off lines about bad spelling or liking monster trucks or having a general for a father (which doesn't even apply to most canons) doesn't weigh heavier in my book than being the journalist in clark's life that helps him fight "crime".[37] when asked if her being cast as a traditionally red haired character caused outcry from fans, kreuk believes that whoever did "got over it pretty fast". chloe hadn't hid davis and gone with him many more lives would have been lost including clark's. eight of smallville, an american television series, began airing on september 18, 2008. season eight dvd box set was officially released on august 25, 2009,[46] and sold approximately 183,000 units in its first week; it generated an estimated . gough and millar believed that lana's behavior toward clark (for refusing to reveal his secret) made her come across as cold and unsympathetic. the first time watching, i really liked chloe, but after reading some posts online from some of her fans towards lana & lois, upon rewatching i started looking at chloe through how those fans looked at the others & chloe just didn't measure up any more. also don't think that chloe threw jimmy up in front of clark, at least not in the sense of 'look somebody likes me' cause again i think she genuinely thought clark wouldn't be interested and she'd kind of made her peace with it. it illuminated chloe's character and her treatment by fandom for me. then she hugs clark but walks away without a hug to her husband or lois. and then when she was under the influence of kryptonite gatorade in "devoted. the group realize who clark really is, and frame him for john's attempted murder. in response, linda announces that clark is part of an alien invasion, and that he killed lex luthor. especially freaked and imo i think she really had convinced herself at that point that clark didn't view the kiss the way she had.  we had chloe literally go to the ends of the earth for clark and declaring her love for him to jor-el.  i would have loved watching clark pine for a while. @bkwurm1--you said more eloquently and clearly what i was trying to say; though i do think that in that moment, clark may have also had an epiphany that he'd been selfish before, and so, "stepped away" if you will. by picking up the subject that kept me going to twop for years and years.  it was like every year the writers just couldn't help write clark in the direction i wanted it to start going and then they'd wrench it off track and force in clana or clois instead. minutes ago, amensisterfriend said:What do you guys see as the best episodes/seasons for the chloe/clark dynamic and for chloe in general?  she was never going to chose him first even if it wasn't clark and jimmy imo revealed his nasty side with the break up, comments on line about her and the attempted thefts. clark wasn't standing there in shock, but was fully participating. swear they were the couple that if they could have just locked them in a cellar for a day everything would have just spilled out and their rescue party would have found them making out in the corner. the full blown version of chlois was ever to happen (the version where chloe literally takes on the name lois lane vs the one where she keeps her name but is smallville's version of that character. so she threw in the "whole world was ending" nonsense, which clark wasn't buying, but what else could he do? that i associate with lois without the large dose of smugness, arrogance, too-cool-for-the-room vibe that i often saw in smallville's version of lois. and jimmy are mugged on the street, and when jimmy attempts to snap a picture of the mugger he catches a blurred image of clark saving lois. davis discovers that the blood on his body is not his, and that he has no wounds; davis starts to believe that he is the killer because he suffers blackouts during the attacks, and finds his skin under the fingernail of a victim.  once she learned clark's secret and became a real ally, though, i started to really enjoy her more.[37] in season two, lana discovers that her mother had had an affair with a man named henry small, and that he was her biological father. the first time watching, i really liked chloe, but after reading some posts online from some of her fans towards lana & lois, upon rewatching i started looking at chloe through how those fans looked at the others & chloe just didn't measure up any more. would be nice to think that all this happened over a decade ago when most audience didn't know better. chloe and jimmy survive, answering the questions to the jeweler's satisfaction, who sets them free; unfortunately, lois is kidnapped by the jeweler.  she kept gaining skills in a generally related area , starting small and growing in ability. as souders explained, it allowed the writers to work with "blank slates", and come up with ways to "reinvigorate and reinvent the show".  clark was far more muddled on if he should kill or not than chloe but then she also saw that his inaction led to deaths just as much as his actions might.[39] writer brian peterson describes lois's relationship with oliver queen in season six as a precursor to her future relationship with clark.  she never denied she had feelings for clark but she was imo being honest that by the time he returned, she didn't expect anything from clark no matter what her feelings were  and i'm not sure clark was self confident enough to assume that chloe would still be in love with him and that the end of the world situation hadn't been the cause of her amped up feelings.  then it's not very long until chloe knows his secret and now their friendship is even more important to both of them. season eight would be about clark moving forward to his destiny in a way that the show has never attempted before. actually agree with you, my attempt at that witty title was my way of saying that this show didn't need that pathetic iteration of lois we got stuck with in erica durance, when we already had smallville's version of what lois lane should be, if that makes sense. that lana has been kidnapped, tess tells clark that she believes lex took her. show didn't write as lana as perfect or particularly fortunate.[33] jeph loeb added that season eight would explore more of the dc comics mythology, and would introduce new characters, as well as expand on already existing ones in smallville continuity. and then when she was under the influence of kryptonite gatorade in "devoted. one of tess' team members pretends to be chloe in order to trick clark into killing doomsday. chloe having sex with jimmy when she was an intern & their three season relationship, getting engaged and married, proclaiming their undying devotion to each other in the season 8 finale and him dying in her arms was beautiful and tragic.  i would have loved watching clark pine for a while. was more rooting for the producers not to allow their hands to be tied by the comics and instead follow-through on what they already had going - the makings of a big chloe/clark relationship. durance believes that because of lois's self-imposed walls, even if she thought about clark in a romantic notion for just an instant she would immediately make it out to be a joke because she is not ready for that type of closeness, yet. chloe was editor of the torch as a freshman, not realistic, but that's smallville, you move past it. it was all very low-key and under the guise of 'they're erasing her ethnicity' but if you scratch beneath the faux-political-correctedness - it was a bunch of white girl geeks complaining that a traditionally white character had been 'racebent' & was the love interest above their blonde-haired-blue-eyed self insert.  i just pointed out that the show doesn't hold anyone responsible when they are mind whammied (and in rush a radical change in personality was a specific symptom) and when chloe was a 14 year old girl who thought her own mother had abandoned her, she did very reasonably think she was doing a wonderful thing for her best friend and yeah, i'm not going to vilify her for it when, as pointed out, clark didn't either. for the davis/doomsday stuff, clark said she was right in stopping him from sticking davis in the zone.[39] in season four, kristin kreuk felt like lana is "going a little crazy and is uncertain about her direction, and feels people aren't validating her beliefs". and, i'm not sure i would say chloe was the clear "fan-favorite" here either. another ordinary day for chloe and clark fighting to save the world. i hated her behavior with lana when lana was forced to be editor of the torch - she acted like lana was trying to steal clark and the torch away from her. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character.  i tend to think that had so many other things in clark's life not been crazy and falling apart at that moment (his dad was missing, his secret was under threat of exposure, he was developing a new power) that he wouldn't have so easily agreed to simplifying his life by going back to being just friends with chloe.  and chloe's belief in clark and in knowing the real him broke zatana's spell and let him become who he really was. and, even then i didn't think they were really going to do a "chloe is actually lois" thing. according to malkowski, lana's strong feminist stance, and her request that people should stop protecting her and start telling her the truth, are diluted by her willingness to believe whatever pieces of information she gets, even if they are lies.    there were so many reasons to find the lana character a problem right there on screen that i see no need to try and scratch below the surface of those complaints to go looking for some other reason.  chimmy seemed truly dead and buried even before jimmy died. he didn't have to say a word back at the farmhouse, his expression of surprise, regret, guilt and determination said it all. by the time dark clark got his head screwed back on right, chloe had to go in hiding so she could once again save everyone. if she wasn't pining for clark, her focus was on finding out what clark was keeping from her. when davis starts to change, chloe uses the black kryptonite to split him herself. the full blown version of chlois was ever to happen (the version where chloe literally takes on the name lois lane vs the one where she keeps her name but is smallville's version of that character.[51] she was nominated again in 2004,[52] 2006,[53] 2008 for the revised category choice tv actress: action adventure,[54] and finally in 2009. clark and lois deduce that bette is the one with the meteor power, and clark arrives at the talon to save chloe before bette can hurt her. "roundtable interview with executive producers kelly souders and brian peterson (part 2)".  chloe finally was able to make him believe her that she didn't leave him for davis - which was absurd since he was the one that left her - he says he loves her and then dies, heroically but it was a bad romance from start to finish.

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[30] in "masquerade" and "booster", lois convinces clark to develop an alter-ego as a way of hiding his true identity as the heroic "blur".  had jimmy not swooped in, i think clark might have had a chance to process and not just accept everything she said at face value. however, lois tries to keep the fact that clark is now in the relationship with her from lana.[34] jade unterman and louise grant portrayed the character as a child and an elderly woman, respectively. people are more okay with giving chloe allowances, it's because chloe constantly got crapped on, constantly was marginalized, constantly got forced into an underdog position, and her two romantic rivals disrespected clark on a weekly basis. i somehow ended up watching the doomsday arc recently and i'm still flabbergasted at how chloe neatly divided the blame for that between her and clark and how she even blamed clark's moral compass for doomsday. chloe is a unique character to smallville & i like her being herself. clark uses the crystal to open the phantom zone, but chloe arrives, removes the crystal, and chastises clark for giving up on davis. it was as if once chloe left only then did he feel the weight of the world on his shoulders.  she's pragmatic and is sorting all the options but she's the one that stopped clark from killing tess even when she was mind whammied to follow his command.  she has years of loving him (and him giving her reasons to think he might feel they had something special beyond friendship) but she also had clark leaving her in the middle of a date to go out into terrible weather cause lana might have been at risk. he should have called her on her bullshit, and said it meant something to him, but then she threw jimmy up there-who, to me, was just protecting herself from being hurt by clark, in case lana came sniffing back. they would have had the opportunity to share more romantic tension (even dating) and is s8/s9 they would have finally become a couple.. she was the one that put her life in peril several times and had to buy a new identity.   arguably once chloe knew his secret, she became as important to him as his parents and in some ways he relied on her even more.  it would be reasonable that chloe/lois would take a lot of convincing before she'd trust clark's feelings. portrayed by serinda swan, zatanna is a magician who comes to town and grants chloe a birthday wish that results in chloe's body transforming into lois. kreuk believes that lana cares for lex as a friend, and that she recognizes the "undertones" that lex may be placing on their relationship, but that lana tends to ignore them. durance has been nominated for two saturn award nominations in the best supporting actress category for her performance as lois lane. smallville, lois comes to town to investigate the apparent death of her cousin chloe sullivan at the start of the fourth season. think the show routinely gave chloe more "human" stories to sink her teeth into and tended to give lana more "action-y" stories.   arguably once chloe knew his secret, she became as important to him as his parents and in some ways he relied on her even more.  she was never going to chose him first even if it wasn't clark and jimmy imo revealed his nasty side with the break up, comments on line about her and the attempted thefts. she was anti meteor freaks and thought they all were bad until the moment she was going to be the savior to them all and gets credit for founding isis from the legion of superheroes even though she actually left before it was doing anything. magician, zatanna, grants chloe's wish to have lois's life, and as a result chloe wakes up with lois's body. beneath that surface and it was a crowd of people having the back  and supporting lana's casting and wanting the show to do right by the character. played a lot with clark's 3 love interests, but there was something with chloe that made me think that they could go that way because of abyss.[38] durance describes the eighth season as a lesson in duality, with clark realizing that he has to be two different people if he wants to have a life and save the day; durance believes that the same applies to lois. she agreed with the green arrow's 'ends justify the means' methods which he himself spelled out to clark in a scene earlier. with her investigative skills, she'd always had a bent toward it but she got better and learned to dig deeper and longer and so yeah, she kept adding to that skill set. while inhabiting chloe's body, brainiac informs davis that he will soon become the creature "doomsday" permanently, and places him in an ice cocoon for the metamorphosis. chloe having sex with jimmy when she was an intern & their three season relationship, getting engaged and married, proclaiming their undying devotion to each other in the season 8 finale and him dying in her arms was beautiful and tragic. hated her telling clark to play god repeatedly and when he refused to do it for her with jimmy, she said that he wasn't human anymore.  but oddly enough, i think the longer he probably thought about it, the more he saw jimmy as chloe's chance at normal and clark viewed normal as better than anything he could offer which might sound unselfish but is imo more a case of self pity and fear.  on that shallow level i could enjoy it but at the same time, i didn't like olivers attitude about her in season 8 and in season ten he exposed his secret to the world in the highly mistaken belief that chloe left because his secret was too much of a burden for her to keep. chloe was editor of the torch as a freshman, not realistic, but that's smallville, you move past it. i'm not dimissing lois skills, but chloe is far more competent.[7] in "fragile", lois continues her duties under martha kent (annette o'toole), who is requested by the governor to take jonathan's place after he suffers a fatal heart attack.  even in the tenth season when suddenly chloe could fight, she'd had nearly a decade of reasons why she should learn and a slew of people around her that could teach her. i even see chloe as a more natural fit for the brilliant, stop-at-nothing-to-get-the-truth reporter role that lois soon occupied. and his reason for not blindly trusting her was because his feelings were hurt over her not contacting him or explaining her plan which only took admitting before he did fully trust her again. according to kreuk, before lana can experience successful relationships with other people she will need to know what it is like to truly be in a relationship with clark, because of the "intense connection between [the] two". lois convinces the us military not to bomb darkseid's homeworld of apokolips, allowing clark to finally embrace his destiny and defeat darkseid himself. hours ago, amensisterfriend said:What did you guys think of her with ollie? i've read pretty much everything lois since i was five years old. lana and lois also had their part, but chloe was  there when he travelled through space and time, the one who saved him from the kryptonite, the one who knew how to discover classified information and hacked everything for him. i didn't see any of that hesitation or shock or trying to pull away from chloe in the fifth finale. i read this meta on tumblr about the one acceptable female character and the fandom sociological reasons for the archetypes that usually fall prey to this syndrome. i bought how lois lane fell in love with clark, i think it was realistic, but not how clark end up loving lois (especially in s9, after the lana thing, in season 8 i thought that, although he didn't love lois, i understood he was beginning to see her in another way).: if they did, they only did it to save you. season five's "fanatic", jonathan kent (john schneider), who is running for the state senate, asks lois to be his campaign manager after witnessing her take charge against his former campaign manager, whom jonathan fires when he published a statement that goes against jonathan's values. kreuk realized that the character in the comics and her character on the show were two different people. later, she tells clark that he no longer has to worry about her, and that they can work together to make the world a better place.'m not sure i agree and i'm also not sure i disagree.[3] in season two's episode "heat" lana sends whitney, who left smallville for the marines in the season one finale,[4] a video message breaking up with him. maxima realizing clark is the kryptonian she has been looking for, finds clark at the daily planet and she uses her hormone-enhanced kiss to take control over clark. sends clark the crystal to rebuild the fortress, only, when clark touches the crystal it activates and sends him and lois to the phantom zone. when he goes to jor-el and he tells him she should stop thinking of his "beloved ones".[11][12] by the season three episode "crisis", it is discovered that the relationship adam attempted to form with lana was just a ploy so that adam could investigate clark. then there were those longing and yearning looks clark sent chloe in season six.  she never denied she had feelings for clark but she was imo being honest that by the time he returned, she didn't expect anything from clark no matter what her feelings were  and i'm not sure clark was self confident enough to assume that chloe would still be in love with him and that the end of the world situation hadn't been the cause of her amped up feelings.[38] darren swimmer stated that they would be using saturn girl, cosmic boy and lightning lad for this episode. donald jacobi, a con artist that comes to smallville, pick up stewart's medical bills after a meteor rock removes all of the malignant cancer cells in his brain.[28] eventually, lana realizes that, even though she loves him, the only way for clark to help the world to the best of his ability would be if she left clark and smallville for good, which she does in the season seven finale. well, she did the actual reporting, editing and made the torch what it was; she interned, worked like a dog to get the story.  she was so clearly set up as not good for clark in the long term. with clark, it was the "first love" that she never had the chance to discover, and that lingered with her while she was in paris during the space between seasons three and four. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character. adoption is such a private & sensitive subject and was completely between clark & his parents. granted chloe was pretty clark-centric at times too, but i could see her living outside of the show and with lana, i couldn't.-she was the one that always cared for clark, no matter the situation (what about season 9, and in season 8 with davis, she may have had done bad choices but she never forget clark and his destiny to be fullfilled somehow). it's not even necessarily a "ship"-related thing for me---i'm mostly fine with chloe not ending up with clark and actually liked her with ollie. lana reveals that she has been using her abilities to help and protect children from people who would exploit them after lana had settled in africa. the worst part was her twisting the knife in her back, with saying clark has told her everything! as lois steps closer to her ultimate destiny at the daily planet, the writers have continued to evolve the character by having her grow out of the "black and white" mindset and have her begin seeing shades of gray. during the fight, lois picks up a legion ring that falls out of clark's desk and is instantly transported to another time and place. i mean, i was never involved with fandom for this show, but i'm betting there are just as many lana fans as chloe fans. was both editor and the main reporter on the torch. by picking up the subject that kept me going to twop for years and years. lionel warns clark with the story of samson and delilah, in which samson trusted his lover delilah with the secret to his immense strength, only to have her betray him.[4] show creators alfred gough and miles millar also departed the series, allowing kelly souders, brian peterson, todd slavkin and darren swimmer to continue as executive producers.

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other than clark's outrage, the narrative tried to validate some of that mess. the return of clark's powers in "hidden", as well as the secrets and lies that accompany them, caused stress on their relationship. Using her newfound super powers, she breaks into Lex's safe and steals incriminating evidence -- which she then delivers to Lois and Grant, demanding they run a story exposing Lex's secrets. throughout seasons four, five, six and seven, lois's relationship with clark kent is depicted more as a brother/sister relationship, with the two characters often butting heads. i read this meta on tumblr about the one acceptable female character and the fandom sociological reasons for the archetypes that usually fall prey to this syndrome. as a result, kreuk learns about the development of lana as lana is learning in the show, just as welling does with clark kent. and, man am i glad i stayed on the periphery of fandom for this show. luckily, clark's words of encouragement persuade one of the cops, a young dan turpin, to turn on the others."a part of me feels that she could never really love lex, and that is why she can be with him: he's not capable of hurting her. i thought she was awesome enough being herself, and the thought of chloe actually being lois never even entered my mind, unless the show was overtly teasing it. it was all very low-key and under the guise of 'they're erasing her ethnicity' but if you scratch beneath the faux-political-correctedness - it was a bunch of white girl geeks complaining that a traditionally white character had been 'racebent' & was the love interest above their blonde-haired-blue-eyed self insert. i hate joss whedon and his laughable faux feminism sfm but at least he wasn't afraid to go there.  we had chloe literally go to the ends of the earth for clark and declaring her love for him to jor-el.  i tend to think that had so many other things in clark's life not been crazy and falling apart at that moment (his dad was missing, his secret was under threat of exposure, he was developing a new power) that he wouldn't have so easily agreed to simplifying his life by going back to being just friends with chloe. in other storylines, clark and oliver queen clash over how to handle lex when he resurfaces, while chloe sullivan and jimmy olsen take their relationship to the next level. that lois didn't have to worry about saving the world doesn't speak highly of her character to me. both very positive and one of my favorite quotes from the show.  chloe finally was able to make him believe her that she didn't leave him for davis - which was absurd since he was the one that left her - he says he loves her and then dies, heroically but it was a bad romance from start to finish. liked her and ollie, but that might have had more to do with the chemistry between allison and justin than the actual writing. chloe even told lana to go for clark, but apparently, when she did, she offended chloe somehow. but it's present day - and most people don't seem able to talk about lana lang or kristin kreuk without making offensive digs about her. he did not like her having so much of the story time in season 8. swear they were the couple that if they could have just locked them in a cellar for a day everything would have just spilled out and their rescue party would have found them making out in the corner. as for the idea that lois was never an editor, she filled in for perry plenty of times in the comics and even was promoted to editor a time or two. still think clark should have fought for her, but maybe it was the first unselfish thing he did for her.[1] the talon, a local coffee shop co-owned by lana, becomes her new grounding force as whitney and her aunt have left smallville. i've read pretty much everything lois since i was five years old. justin hartley added as a series regular, smallville would explore more of his backstory, including why he chose to become green arrow, how he accomplished it, and how he became good at archery. at least not anymore perfect or fortunate than fan-favorite chloe who went from being the best hacker in the world in high school to the best reporter in the world to a superhero to a superhero's loving wife and mother of his kid.   i did and still do avoid certain forums that are notorious for people with toxic opinions. with the police after him, clark uses his legion ring to go back in time and stops linda from writing her story; clark destroys the ring afterward. chloe was bits and pieces of several characters, including pete, the kents, lana, lois, babs, and then her own person in the sv-verse. clark never said one word to her & he didn't even hug her back when she left., my only real problem with lana was tptb's propensity to pull the on-again/off-again card out for her and clark. linda lake comes back and threatens to expose clark's secret if he does not agree to provide her with the inside scoop on all of the "red-blue blur" heroics he performs.(i mean she pulled the friends card at the start of season two but clark gave her reason to do it. it illuminated chloe's character and her treatment by fandom for me. would be nice to think that all this happened over a decade ago when most audience didn't know better. swear they were the couple that if they could have just locked them in a cellar for a day everything would have just spilled out and their rescue party would have found them making out in the corner. i hated the way fandom valorized her, even while she was being *problematic* and i hated how they maligned and slut-shamed other female characters in favor of chloe.  brainiac was still weaving his plot which apparently included tricking clark into taking him to the fortress - not something easily accomplished once clark is on the run or in government lockdown. both very positive and one of my favorite quotes from the show. season seven's "kara", while looking into lex's research projects, lois discovers an alien spaceship. tess informs clark that now he has no choice but to kill doomsday. he never would have wanted her to leave with davis & she didn't trust clark at all.  it would be reasonable that chloe/lois would take a lot of convincing before she'd trust clark's feelings. regardless, it was enough for smallville to earn second place in most units sold during the ending week of august 30, 2009, just behind the season five boxset of house which sold approximately 223,000 units.  (again that's where bargaining with the universe explains so much)  still, jimmy had to be a nice distraction and a balm to the wounds she was hiding.  ick, i hated that impassive disinterest that i think was supposed to pass for faith, but then her faith and belief was that clark had all the answers, was a god, and shouldn't be bothered with the distractions of an ordinary life proving to me that she didn't know him at all.)somebody can argue that she had some trouble this season in terms of love: she liked davis and loved jimmy but still loved clark: because we know from abyss he was her more precious one in her life -maybe not love? granted, am always did a great job with the character, but i found myself tolerating chloe as a character, before she finds out, to loving her after she find out. he told the fake her she was completely right in what she did. show didn't write as lana as perfect or particularly fortunate. and, i'm not sure i would say chloe was the clear "fan-favorite" here either. may not have advocated specifically for clark to kill someone, but she also never advocated for him not to once she knew his secret.  i also think she probably spent the whole time clark was missing making bargains with the universe, probably along the lines of "please let him just come back to me safe and i promise i will never be unhappy ever again just being friends.(i mean she pulled the friends card at the start of season two but clark gave her reason to do it. he told the real her the following year that he had been wrong about pushing her away and how he treated her and later admitted he needed the same big brother network he'd been concerned about before. before the legionnaires can kill chloe, clark intervenes and convinces them to focus their powers and pull brainiac out of [email protected] as someone who has had this discussion, in one variation or the other, for the entire decade i watched this show - i will just say that your experience with the smallville fandom and my experience with it are vastly different and live it at that. clark was the one that stopped listening to her so she was forced to save his butt.  it might have been nice for chloe and clark to date and then mutually part., i never looked at chloe and thought, "that's a young lois lane right there.  and clark probably would have tried hard to resist his feelings cause chloe would be giving off clear signs that he'd missed out. in a world where clark prefers lois over you, ollie is a really good boyfriend! i hated her stance on murder - i remember her telling clark to kill lex in 7x19 by claiming clark was a god, implying that he was beyond the rules of human morality such as murder. because as we saw with lana, despite her having a boyfriend, that didn't stop clark from pursuing her.: if they did, they only did it to save you. but, more importantly, not in a universe where, after having realized that, maybe, he and lana are star-crossed lovers, the girl that had always been there to be his partner; chloe, still was there, waiting for him. is attacked by the persuader in his barn, but before he is killed a trio of superpowered aliens from the 31st century, called the legion, shows up and saves him. and they could have done that if they wanted, because smallville was a world on its own! friendship that lana shares with chloe was deeply damaged at the start of season three, so much so that not even kreuk realized how badly until the episode "truth". episode gets better as it goes, starting with lame, inappropriate clark-lana super "action," but eventually getting to the core of the series by the end of the episode. beyond the inherent lois traits that exist in lois(es) regardless of whether they work at a newspaper or love a superman, lois wouldn't advocate cold-blooded murder or tell a superman to do it. hours ago, bkwurm1 said:I'm not sure i agree and i'm also not sure i disagree. he should have called her on her bullshit, and said it meant something to him, but then she threw jimmy up there-who, to me, was just protecting herself from being hurt by clark, in case lana came sniffing back. this was the point when i knew clark would never love her." clark joined the daily planet to help his cause, using the planet as a means to get information about where there is trouble. miller, who also wrote for the television series, lois's story continues as she lives her life with clark, who has now become known to the world as "superman". regular cast members during season eight include tom welling, allison mack, erica durance, aaron ashmore, along with new series regulars cassidy freeman, sam witwer, and justin hartley. credited cast:Rest of cast listed alphabetically:Kryptonite and high voltage mix during a lightning storm -- causing lana to absorb clark's powers.

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  i also think she probably spent the whole time clark was missing making bargains with the universe, probably along the lines of "please let him just come back to me safe and i promise i will never be unhappy ever again just being friends. for almost walking away from tess, well, she didn't did she. clark manages to get the two to safety without tess seeing him use his powers. was more rooting for the producers not to allow their hands to be tied by the comics and instead follow-through on what they already had going - the makings of a big chloe/clark relationship.[23] the relationship with lex eventually leads to marriage in the season six episode "promise", but not before lana discovers clark's secret and realizes why he has been lying to her all these years. because she was greedy and because she saw clark/lana together.  while the show didn't write either in a real world realistic manner, it did a much more consistent job of building on how they had always been writing chloe. after finding chloe still alive, lois is forced to enroll in smallville high to complete the remaining credits of high school she failed to achieve.  then when he does show up he played the part of the attentive boyfriend but far too often chloe was forced to play dumb to boost his ego  and she never trusted him over clark (or davis but braininac was influencing that) and when jimmy finally realized he wasn't her first place priority, he turned on her, robbed her, called her foul names, humiliated her in public and then shows up at the end like all that could be swept under the rug.  but oddly enough, i think the longer he probably thought about it, the more he saw jimmy as chloe's chance at normal and clark viewed normal as better than anything he could offer which might sound unselfish but is imo more a case of self pity and fear.[44] brian peterson explained that the new executive producers were looking for a villainous character that was "as great as lex", with michael rosenbaum's departure, and doomsday fit what they were looking for. strongly disagree that either clark or the actor playing him was over chloe as a character. below quote is from a few episodes prior to sebastian's death:Clark: chloe, the person who did this may have kidnapped lex. instead, clark has lois write his story as a means of controlling the inevitable. and high voltage mix during a lightning storm -- causing lana to absorb clark's powers. and they could have done that if they wanted, because smallville was a world on its own!" she is caught in a terrorist attack after her arrival but is saved by lana, who is revealed to be the superheroine lois investigates. title of this thread has me nodding in enthusiastic agreement because, while i'm not a lois lane expert, from everything i've read and seen chloe is everything that i like about the original---albeit with very different hair :) i've been rewatching a bunch of episodes for the second (in some cases third) time lately, and i just can't shake the feeling that smallville's lois feels kind of redundant because of chloe. as jor-el restores her memories, brainiac leaves chloe and infects the fortress, unknown to clark. they would have had the opportunity to share more romantic tension (even dating) and is s8/s9 they would have finally become a couple. but, let's face it:-the show made it clear that, hadn't been for chloe, smallville universe wouldn't have had superman.  even after she was out of journalism, she remained his go to person for assistance and help. writer kelly souders felt that if tabloid beginnings were good enough for perry white—an additional character established in season three's "perry"—then they are good enough for lois lane. chloe sort of filled the lois role (investigating things, getting into trouble) but was a character in her own right. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character.[60] lana returns in a parallel storyarc valkyrie, in which she uses the superhero alias "angel of the plateau" and battles terrorists in africa.-lois was good in her job, but chloe lost hers while lois won it mainly because grant wanted her and had some luck with the tabloids.  it was like every year the writers just couldn't help write clark in the direction i wanted it to start going and then they'd wrench it off track and force in clana or clois instead. but the story was not important, they owe that to clois shippers, i suppose. among those appearing were plastique and maxima, the latter coming to smallville to try to mate with clark. only agreed to come back for seasons 9 & 10 if he had more control over clark. was a lot of fun in the second season of alias and even at the end of season one as he was unraveling it.  i just pointed out that the show doesn't hold anyone responsible when they are mind whammied (and in rush a radical change in personality was a specific symptom) and when chloe was a 14 year old girl who thought her own mother had abandoned her, she did very reasonably think she was doing a wonderful thing for her best friend and yeah, i'm not going to vilify her for it when, as pointed out, clark didn't either. oliver and clark, who has lost his powers, arrive at the luthorcorp site and rescue chloe, arthur and dinah.[19] in "plastique", lois takes clark under her wing—teaching him how to be a reporter—after he accepts an internship at the daily planet, sitting at the desk directly across from lois. the start of the show, lana lang is characterized as the girl next door. lana also discovers that her suit not only gives her strength and speed, but absorbs kryptonite radiation as well. just like he was the one who started to initiate the kiss that almost happened in season one. i think despite chloe being there and knowing that clark kissed her back, she wasn't at all certain that clark wasn't just caught up in the moment or indulging her last request. clark tracks lex down, but lana stops him from doing something he would regret, and lex's mobile safe-house explodes and kills him. a security guard discovers davis disposing of evidence, but before he can call the police, davis morphs into a kryptonian monster and kills him.)  laurel's problem and lois's too was that other characters got to the most easily associated traits and characteristics well before they did which by the time either laurel or lois ever do anything to perhaps work toward their comic "destinies" they are a johnny come lately in their own story. sebastian attempts to kill lois after discovering that she knows who he is, but clark intervenes. and chloe started badly, because she basically started dating him because she felt insecure after kissing clark. in the end, kreuk believes that clark is lana's only true friend, as lex is more focused on bringing his father to justice and she and chloe have a tense relationship based on their mutual feelings for clark. as bette heads to belle reve, tess stops by and persuades her to join a group of individuals, who also have meteor powers, that tess has been forming.-and clark felt in love with lois out of a sudden. definitely filled in the role of "clarke's friend who knows his secret" much better than pete did, and was certainly a heck of a lot more useful. think chloe was really emotionally beat up in season 9 and what oliver offered: fun, respect, affection meant a lot to her but i don't think her feelings went as deep as she'd allowed them to go for clark since she was traumatized by jummy's death, davis's betrayal and clark's abandonment and so i'm not convinced what they tried to restart in season ten was on a solid foundation. when it resulted, indirectly, in her death and he was allowed to live the day over again clark chose not to tell her his secret.(i mean she pulled the friends card at the start of season two but clark gave her reason to do it.  i also think she probably spent the whole time clark was missing making bargains with the universe, probably along the lines of "please let him just come back to me safe and i promise i will never be unhappy ever again just being friends. she threw in the "whole world was ending" nonsense, which clark wasn't buying, but what else could he do? just like he was the one who started to initiate the kiss that almost happened in season one. she tells davis that he and clark kent are destined to fight and kill each other, and that clark cannot accept his role as earth's savior until he kills davis. she (and others) sabotaged every one of clark's plans to deal with doomsday during that s8 arc and then assigned him half the blame/blamed his moral compass after it turned out horribly.[24] this season, lois and clark officially begin a romantic relationship, while lois also begins assisting "the blur" in his heroic endeavors. the first one we saw in "hug" where clark smirked when that guy told chloe she had feelings for clark and to kiss him, only to have his eyes bug out when she laid one on him. every fandom seems to have character wars and those wars are never as simple as they appear to be on the surface. this season would also explore more of the friendship between oliver queen and clark. i'm not dimissing lois skills, but chloe is far more competent. the end of season seven, it was announced that series regulars kristin kreuk and michael rosenbaum, who had been with the show since the first episode, would not return as regulars for the eighth season, though kreuk did return as a recurring guest to conclude her story. clark saves tess before marcos, who has returned, can kill her. he should have called her on her bullshit, and said it meant something to him, but then she threw jimmy up there-who, to me, was just protecting herself from being hurt by clark, in case lana came sniffing back.  now, i didn't want her and clark to be a couple throughout the series, but i really wish the asshats would have at least had them date, because it was clear to me, that clark did have feelings for her, but noooo, that stupid tornado happened, lana was aloooonne again, so of course he dropped chloe as if she were kryptonite.  i know it was when i was most hopeful about the show, both where it was and where it would be going.  thinking her closer than a sister cousin was dead, knowing all her friends had slunk away and that the other important men in her life were either dead or pretending to be. having oliver pose as the good samaritan, clark sets up a scheme and shows jimmy that he is wrong. was never tied to the notion that she had to be known as lois lane, just that she would be the equivalent of lois on the show and in many ways even without ever having an explored romantic relationship with clark, chloe sullivan's legacy on smallville is the one that i see as having had the bigger influence on the modern direction of lois lane than edlois. clark finds davis in the process of killing oliver, but he intervenes and takes davis to the fortress. at the beginning of season four, lana returns to smallville after receiving a mysterious tattoo on her lower back, which resembles a symbol on the local kawatche cave walls, when she touched the tomb of countess margaret isobel theroux. kick-the-chloe was quite possibly the dumbest game ever created, and yet tptb couldn't stop playing it. the episode where she had the parasite & clark was on red k, i don't know why she couldn't just have fun kissing clark. chloe even told lana to go for clark, but apparently, when she did, she offended chloe somehow.[25] lois's trust in clark is shaken when she thinks clark is jealous of her relationship with "the blur", and that he does not understand her need to find value in her own life's work. when she find some balance with her "love" with jimmy she could have tried to be with clark, but subconsciously didn't want to lose what she had with jimmy because she knew that clark still loved lana. like, she should have let davis transform and get away while she had the black k, so everyone could blame her for standing around doing nothing while doomsday killed everybody? still think clark should have fought for her, but maybe it was the first unselfish thing he did for her.  i tend to think that had so many other things in clark's life not been crazy and falling apart at that moment (his dad was missing, his secret was under threat of exposure, he was developing a new power) that he wouldn't have so easily agreed to simplifying his life by going back to being just friends with chloe. it was still a good show for me (season 9 and 10) but i'd have preferred having seen those two seasons before the first 8 ones. that is when he had clark distance himself from chloe.

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before lois can leave smallville, her father (michael ironside) informs her that she failed to achieve all of her high school credits and that he has enrolled her in smallville high so that she can complete her twelfth-grade year. in the series' 100th episode, clark finally took a chance and told lana the truth. chloe helps one of the injured passengers, bette, and meets paramedic davis bloome. it's just that they made chloe so lovably lois-y to me that the real lois ended up feeling like an unnecessary and less likable version of chloe to me while relegating chloe to a less important role.  she came to the show a low level hacker, got better but still had her limits and kept getting better but still got caught by the government and then she got a alien computer downloaded in her brain and after that she was the worlds best hacker. clark manages to get an antidote for oliver, who informs him that tess will be attacked next.  even his supposed "never looked at chloe like that" moment only happened when lois was actually chloe and had been all day. in the end, lois receives a call from the red-blue blur who informs her that she does not need to fake stories to be a good reporter, and when he is ready to come out to the world she will be the first to know.  clark is the one that suggests she's saying kill him.[3] while investigating chloe's death with clark kent (tom welling) in "gone", the pair uncover the truth that chloe is still alive, but in witness protection until lionel luthor's trial, the man she is testifying against with evidence that he orchestrated the death of his own parents. lana gives her blessing to lois, and decides to remain in africa as the angel. i hated the way fandom valorized her, even while she was being *problematic* and i hated how they maligned and slut-shamed other female characters in favor of chloe. chloe told clark to kill lex in s7 and s8 iirc. she agreed with the green arrow's 'ends justify the means' methods which he himself spelled out to clark in a scene earlier. rokk, imra and garth inform clark that today is the day he is supposed to destroy brainiac for good, but the only way for him to do that would be to kill chloe. hour ago, doram said:@bkwurm1 as someone who has had this discussion, in one variation or the other, for the entire decade i watched this show - i will just say that your experience with the smallville fandom and my experience with it are vastly different and live it at that. as for the idea that lois was never an editor, she filled in for perry plenty of times in the comics and even was promoted to editor a time or two.  it was pretty clear in the episode what was happening, then oliver guilts chloe about it and though she knows it wasn't her, she still feels responsible and so he is able to use her guilt against her. tess assigns lois the job of uncovering the truth about oliver's "drunken fall" at the fundraiser.  then we had chloe leaving with davis in an attempt to save clark and clark really seeming to wake up to his feelings. also don't think that chloe threw jimmy up in front of clark, at least not in the sense of 'look somebody likes me' cause again i think she genuinely thought clark wouldn't be interested and she'd kind of made her peace with it. clark discovers that a group of officers are taking the law into their own hands, and killing criminals. jones is shot by an unseen assailant while on duty, and chloe and clark suspect that the shooter was another police officer. corben's new kryptonite heart (installed by winslow schott) has absorbed the nanites embedded in lana's skin, rendering her powerless and no longer emitting the kryptonite radiation once more.  no, i don't think he wanted to say it meant nothing but i think he was really uncertain still of what this change to their friendship could mean and scared of messing things up. saving chloe from a carjacker, who turns out to be local mobster, bruno mannheim, lois takes on the superhero persona of "stiletto", which she uses to get closer to the red-blue blur and convince him to give an interview to "lois lane". meanwhile, oliver confesses to clark that he killed lex, which forces clark to question who oliver has become if he's willing to take another man's life. durance believes that she embodies many of the characteristics that the creative team wanted to show in their version of lois, specifically the fact that lois has a lot of "nervous energy" from trying to "find herself", the same nervous energy that durance brings to the role. world was ending in the sense that they might never have seen each other again if clark died or got trapped.  then it's not very long until chloe knows his secret and now their friendship is even more important to both of them. after chloe forgets everyone, except davis, clark decides he has to use the crystal to rebuild the fortress of solitude and have jor-el restore her memories.   arguably once chloe knew his secret, she became as important to him as his parents and in some ways he relied on her even more. mack explained that chloe would be forging her own destiny this season, and letting clark learn to deal with problems on his own—previous seasons saw clark relying heavily on chloe to help solve the crime. i read this meta on tumblr about the one acceptable female character and the fandom sociological reasons for the archetypes that usually fall prey to this syndrome. lois helps the powerless lana in defeating corben, and lana reveals that she knows about her relationship with clark as she saw the engagement ring before lois hid it. there's nothing more that i can add that @bkwurm1 didn't already state.  it might have been nice for chloe and clark to date and then mutually part.  she's pragmatic and is sorting all the options but she's the one that stopped clark from killing tess even when she was mind whammied to follow his command. so i don't think it had anything to do with insecurity, but everything to do with his bda ass choosing and mooning over lana, and thus saving herself from yet another heartache, since they were both in a good place. she eventually discovers chloe's whereabouts and arrives, alongside clark, to save her. it illuminated chloe's character and her treatment by fandom for me. it was always her so-called perfection at the centre of the debates on twop and other superman boards. hated her for downplaying the deal with lionel to clark in whisper and to pauline kahn in thirst by removing all responsibility and agency from herself and transferring it to lionel — insinuating that she was blackmailed when she made the deal of her own choice. also don't think that chloe threw jimmy up in front of clark, at least not in the sense of 'look somebody likes me' cause again i think she genuinely thought clark wouldn't be interested and she'd kind of made her peace with it. using her newfound super powers, she breaks into lex's safe and steals incriminating evidence -- which she then delivers to lois and grant, demanding they run a story exposing lex's secrets.  the clark-chloe scenes in lineage (when he confronts her about snooping into his adoption and later when they're talking again), and clark and chloe talking in the woods in vortex (the "better off as friends" speech). the complaints were why did the show think they had to pretend that lana didn't have roots beyond european ancestry? clark more than forgave her, he came to rely on her more than anyone. i'll never understand how apparently, carrying out a plan because someone else can't is considered sabotaging it.  she's not an everywoman by any standards i can understand unless everywoman is code for approachable? i agree with you lana was no more perfect and uber-special than chloe in terms of writing, the thing i think they failed on with lana as a character is they didn't give her much life outside of clark. show didn't write as lana as perfect or particularly fortunate. other than clark's outrage, the narrative tried to validate some of that mess. in the same episode, she almost shares a kiss with clark before being interrupted by the arrival of clark's ex-girlfriend lana lang (kristin kreuk).[5] with lex luthor's (michael rosenbaum) help in the episode "devoted", clark manages to get lois her remaining credits ahead of schedule so that she can attend metropolis university, and vacate his bedroom. it was still a good show for me (season 9 and 10) but i'd have preferred having seen those two seasons before the first 8 ones. she was a really good friend to clark & i appreciated that about her, but by doing so, she lacked her spark of reporting the story in order to protect him. while her getting into the dp was hard to buy, i could overlook it (that is until i read criticism of how lois got her start-lois entry was done much better than chloe). lois decides to leave smallville to help jimmy although her real reason is the arrival of lana and leaves heartbroken.. she was the one that put her life in peril several times and had to buy a new identity. he did not like her having so much of the story time in season 8. picks: september we're both excited and terrified for the return of pennywise in stephen king's it.'m never a fan of the character who keeps snooping around their crush, even though their crush keeps telling to stop and mind their own business. hours ago, bkwurm1 said:I'm not sure i agree and i'm also not sure i disagree. under the initial agreement, durance was only to portray the character for a total of four episodes, but, after a discussion with peter roth over how they planned to use the character on the show—insisting that she and clark would not be having a romantic relationship—the feature film division then cleared the character for more episodes. after lois helps lana defeat corben, lana reveals that she had seen lois's engagement ring, thus she already knows about clark's relationship with lois." another plus, according to beeman, was the chemistry between durance and tom welling., clark and pete, being the scooby do gang, investigating, reporting. especially freaked and imo i think she really had convinced herself at that point that clark didn't view the kiss the way she had.  i tend to think that had so many other things in clark's life not been crazy and falling apart at that moment (his dad was missing, his secret was under threat of exposure, he was developing a new power) that he wouldn't have so easily agreed to simplifying his life by going back to being just friends with chloe.  it's not lois vs chloe and it's certainly not chlark vs clois. she learned clark's secret and became a real ally, though, i started to really enjoy her more. i hated the big brother crap she pulled because the show never actually went full tilt with it and, then, it was all swept under the rug, including her role in doomsday. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character. clark learns that she has been spying on lex, and was the reason behind lionel's kidnapping.  then we had chloe leaving with davis in an attempt to save clark and clark really seeming to wake up to his feelings. clark stops her, after being told that he has wasted his time on the farm with so much more potential due to his abilities.  it was like every year the writers just couldn't help write clark in the direction i wanted it to start going and then they'd wrench it off track and force in clana or clois instead. i agree with you lana was no more perfect and uber-special than chloe in terms of writing, the thing i think they failed on with lana as a character is they didn't give her much life outside of clark. at least not anymore perfect or fortunate than fan-favorite chloe who went from being the best hacker in the world in high school to the best reporter in the world to a superhero to a superhero's loving wife and mother of his kid.  on that shallow level i could enjoy it but at the same time, i didn't like olivers attitude about her in season 8 and in season ten he exposed his secret to the world in the highly mistaken belief that chloe left because his secret was too much of a burden for her to keep.

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was a lot of fun in the second season of alias and even at the end of season one as he was unraveling it. i still remember the long discussions about this and how it was problematic of her to be casted to play the role of a white character. chloe learns that to reverse the spell she has to not want the wish any longer; at the same time, clark inadvertently wishes to have a normal life, which deprives him of the knowledge of his abilities. theses are the qualities that clark kent on man of steel falls for in lois lane. the end of season two, lana and clark slowly try and start a romantic relationship, but fear backlash from chloe because of her personal feelings for clark. he should have called her on her bullshit, and said it meant something to him, but then she threw jimmy up there-who, to me, was just protecting herself from being hurt by clark, in case lana came sniffing back. before clark can answer, he manages to strip the watch off the jeweler and then knock him unconscious. tess plants a new reporter, sebastian kane, at the daily planet, who has the ability to steal memories, to find out if lois stole the crystal. still think clark should have fought for her, but maybe it was the first unselfish thing he did for her. she also informs clark that the reason lana left after coming out of her coma was because lex had her taken into custody when she woke, and forced her to break up with clark via a video. was both editor and the main reporter on the torch. in "hypnotic", in an effort to stop hurting lana emotionally, clark told her that he no longer loved her. think chloe was really emotionally beat up in season 9 and what oliver offered: fun, respect, affection meant a lot to her but i don't think her feelings went as deep as she'd allowed them to go for clark since she was traumatized by jummy's death, davis's betrayal and clark's abandonment and so i'm not convinced what they tried to restart in season ten was on a solid foundation. so i don't think it had anything to do with insecurity, but everything to do with his bda ass choosing and mooning over lana, and thus saving herself from yet another heartache, since they were both in a good place. chloe, and clark's parents: martha, jonathan and jor-el (this one with strange methods) were the ones who made him what he was. deal with lionel was a mistake she paid for by nearly dying and her father not being able to get hired even later.'ve never in all my years in smallville forums ever heard complaints about her character being wrong because of kk's very vague ethnicity (and i say vague because i was two years into that show before i even realized she probably had some asian heritage and that was only after people complained that they badly cast her parents. collapses at a fundraiser and reveals to clark and chloe that he has been poisoned and only has twelve hours to live. in smallville, doomsday was represented by a "nice guy" paramedic, who grew up moving from foster home to foster home. alfred gough and miles millar were initially trying to find someone for the role of clark kent, but kristin kreuk was the first to be cast, as lana lang. lois wouldn't walk away from saving someone's life, even someone she hated, like chloe did when she was going to let tess die, even while telling her earlier that she would save her life. kreuk believes that lana did love jason teague, but she also still loved clark at the same time. with her investigative skills, she'd always had a bent toward it but she got better and learned to dig deeper and longer and so yeah, she kept adding to that skill set. hated her telling clark to play god repeatedly and when he refused to do it for her with jimmy, she said that he wasn't human anymore. a casual love affair would have been ok, but not in a universe where chloe exists in clark's life. serial killer attacks a local club, injuring and murdering several patrons. chloe was bits and pieces of several characters, including pete, the kents, lana, lois, babs, and then her own person in the sv-verse.[2][3] while laura vandervoort and john glover departed the series alongside kreuk and rosenbaum; glover was killed off in season seven's "descent", while vandervoort was written out of the series after one season but made one guest appearance in this season.  (i'm quoting) pretty much proved to me he didn't really understand her.  then we had chloe leaving with davis in an attempt to save clark and clark really seeming to wake up to his feelings.  i never understood why clark was upset when she split him. chloe uses her powers to bring clark and kara back to earth, with kara getting john jones's crystal to exorcise faora from lois's body. least, they should have waited until s10 to clois, or hint at it at the very end.  the show gave that to me, i didn't have to make up anything. complete eighth season of smallville was released on august 25, 2009 in north america in both dvd and blu-ray format. the only reason lana was with lex was because clark forced her in that direction and she ended up getting in over her head. however, clark makes a sole provision, that all of chloe's knowledge about clark's true identity be removed. clark and lana investigate the bombing and discover that the bomb was made with kryptonite. mack's character would also be picking up the isis foundation, a counseling center for people infected by kryptonite, that lana founded before she left smallville. just as clark is beginning to realize the truth about lex and his lies, lana is starting to trust lex more. but the story was not important, they owe that to clois shippers, i suppose. tess later takes revenge and poisons marcos before sending him to the hospital to die. enjoyed at least the first half of six (while i lived in hope that the road blocks that was jimmy was only temporary and the clana was a dead horse) six is also tainted by how they took away chloe's power suits, leaving her in weird frumpy outfits while she propped the ego of the insecure jimmy olsen just so she could say she had a boyfriend. people are more okay with giving chloe allowances, it's because chloe constantly got crapped on, constantly was marginalized, constantly got forced into an underdog position, and her two romantic rivals disrespected clark on a weekly basis. maxima's kiss almost kills jimmy, but clark comes to the rescue. i think they wouldn't have dated immediately after the kiss, unless they have had a conversation about it, chloe would still have acted insecure (probably less), but with lexana happening, clark might have started viewing chloe more than just a friend.  we had chloe literally go to the ends of the earth for clark and declaring her love for him to jor-el. clark arrives and discovers davis's body, covered in blood and lying unconscious on the floor.[15] in season four's "spell" and "sacred", the tattoo acts as a doorway for the spirit of isobel to inhabit lana's body; each time isobel takes over lana's body she sets out to find the three stones of knowledge, which are also being searched for by clark and lex luthor (michael rosenbaum). both lois and lana also find themselves targeted by the latter's enemies, and they send john corben to defeat lana.[1][35] gough explains that, when casting for the role, they looked to margot kidder—lois lane in the superman film series—for inspiration.  the feelings for each of them were real, but the reveal got rushed and they both were afraid. he did not like her having so much of the story time in season 8.[48] she would receive two more nominations in that category, one in 2004 and one in 2006, before she departed from the show.[47] in its second week, the eighth season only sold 55,000 units, and earning more than million. it was always her so-called perfection at the centre of the debates on twop and other superman boards.[52][53][54][55] the box set included various special features, including episode commentary, a behind-the-scenes featurettes titled "smallville's doomsday: the making of a monster" and "in the director’s chair: behind the lens and calling the shots with allison mack".[25] it is revealed at the start of season seven that her effort fails, but as part of the "settlement" of their divorce, lex makes sure that lana does not go to jail for her actions. would be nice to think that all this happened over a decade ago when most audience didn't know better." i thought she had some of the traits i associate with lois (which made sense given they are cousins), but there were always things about her character that i didn't see as very lois-like. she has been a series regular since the pilot episode, and has been played continuously by kristin kreuk, with two other actresses having portrayed lana lang as a child and as an elderly woman. so she threw in the "whole world was ending" nonsense, which clark wasn't buying, but what else could he do? actually agree with you, my attempt at that witty title was my way of saying that this show didn't need that pathetic iteration of lois we got stuck with in erica durance, when we already had smallville's version of what lois lane should be, if that makes sense. at least not anymore perfect or fortunate than fan-favorite chloe who went from being the best hacker in the world in high school to the best reporter in the world to a superhero to a superhero's loving wife and mother of his kid. still think clark should have fought for her, but maybe it was the first unselfish thing he did for her. it was as if once chloe left only then did he feel the weight of the world on his shoulders. the oliver scenes where he calls her out and she weakly says it was brainiac and then goes along with covering it up is what created ambiguity for me - i was willing to write off sebastian as mainly brainiac's influence before that. kick-the-chloe was quite possibly the dumbest game ever created, and yet tptb couldn't stop playing it. i never disliked her, just didn't find her all that compelling when she was sitting around pining for clark. when jimmy died, how was it that she who suffered the most from both davis and jimmy's death is the only one strong enough not to run away. but, let's face it:-the show made it clear that, hadn't been for chloe, smallville universe wouldn't have had superman. i'm sure if i was motivated to look, i'd find there are (and were) as many lana-centric places of the internet as chloe-centered ones. the name "tess mercer" is a homage to two characters from superman lore, eve teschmacher and mercy graves. still had the jimmy problem and added the meteor power problem but there was a lot of good stuff in it too and it built up a long list of comparisons between lana and chloe (where lana did not come off looking good) that tricked me into believing there would be payoff as clark's lana blinders finally came off. title of this thread has me nodding in enthusiastic agreement because, while i'm not a lois lane expert, from everything i've read and seen chloe is everything that i like about the original---albeit with very different hair :) i've been rewatching a bunch of episodes for the second (in some cases third) time lately, and i just can't shake the feeling that smallville's lois feels kind of redundant because of chloe.[31] in the seventeenth episode, "hex", smallville puts its spin on the dc character zatanna. when clark tries to comfort lois, who witnesses the pair kissing, maxima assumes she is a rival mate and attempts to kill her., i liked chloe, but some of her fans nitpicking, twisting & sometimes just outright lying about lana & lois every move, while glorifying chloe is just so wrong & takes away my enjoyment of chloe a bit. chloe calls davis, who attempts to find a cure for oliver's ailment, while clark tries to find out who is responsible. i hated that she put cameras all over clark's house and listened to his private calls, but when lana spied on lex , chloe came down on her for it. in addition, this season sees the appearance of more dc comics characters, including recurring appearances from plastique and members of the legion of super-heroes.

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